2013 Honda CBR500/CB500R/CB500X

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nikster;285009 wrote: Are these really the same weight as the kawa 650s? Cbx has 193 kg curb weight but not sure thats dry or wet.
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No, they are not, as a couple of minutes googling will tell you.

The CB500X curb weight (includes all standard equipment, required fluids and full tank of fuel - ready to ride) is 195 kg (430 punds) while the Ninja 650 is 208 kg (260 pounds) wet.

The naked CB500F is 190 kg (420 pounds) wet.
 
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^ +1, good to see them keeping these bikes away from the franchise dealers and selling them only through the official Honda Big Wings.
 
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KZ25;285015 wrote: No, they are not, as a couple of minutes googling will tell you.

The CB500X curb weight (includes all standard equipment, required fluids and full tank of fuel - ready to ride) is 195 kg (430 punds) while the Ninja 650 is 208 kg (260 pounds) wet.

The naked CB500F is 190 kg (420 pounds) wet.
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And the naked ER6n is 204Kg (450lbs)

Still the 650's put out ~72Hp to the 500's ~47Hp, so power to weight is definitely in Kawasaki's favor.
 
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For people interested in a sports bike, the CBR 500 looks pretty damn depressing. Heavier and less power than my 20 year old VFR 400cc, and judging from the pictures, doesn't look much like a sports bike either. Why they did not call it CBR 500 RR? Presumably to avoid making it look competly ridicolous compared to their proper racing-replica bikes.

Still waiting for somebody to start selling locally produced sports bikes here, so I can retire my VFR 400. :-/
 
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michaels;285042 wrote: For people interested in a sports bike, the CBR 500 looks pretty damn depressing. Heavier and less power than my 20 year old VFR 400cc, and judging from the pictures, doesn't look much like a sports bike either. Why they did not call it CBR 500 RR? Presumably to avoid making it look competly ridicolous compared to their proper racing-replica bikes.

Still waiting for somebody to start selling locally produced sports bikes here, so I can retire my VFR 400. :-/
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plenty of bikes here . ducati z1000 cbr1000rr you just need to pay the price. Thailand is a pimple on hondas ass and they are marketing to the world masses.
Obviously they think a low powered 500 is going to sell better at a low price then a new inline 4
 
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michaels;285042 wrote: For people interested in a sports bike, the CBR 500 looks pretty damn depressing. Heavier and less power than my 20 year old VFR 400cc, and judging from the pictures, doesn't look much like a sports bike either. Why they did not call it CBR 500 RR? Presumably to avoid making it look competly ridicolous compared to their proper racing-replica bikes.

Still waiting for somebody to start selling locally produced sports bikes here, so I can retire my VFR 400. :-/
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If you can wait a little longer the Thai-manufactured Z800 should become available for purchase in Thailand, hopefully in 2013.

A proper inline 4 that cranks out 113 Hp and weighs 229Kg. Sounds like a winning recipe to me! :happy1:
 
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The CB500X comes standard with Pirelli Scorpions. :thumbup:

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In fact the CBR500R is really good value for money. There is nothing that comes even close to it here in Thailand.

You get 500cc with 47HP for 205,000 THB

I believe that the baby Ninja that is available here in Thailand has 250 CC with 27HP (or so?) for 147,000 THB (or so?)
 
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brake034;285060 wrote: The picture Linds made of the dressed up X has a one piece buddy, the others show a two piece contruction.
All the early pics also show the one piece buddy, maybe pre production / prototype bikes.

Scorpions? Great!

Any GT Rider order one already?
I am waiting for the release of the X, Big Wing said they do not yet accept orders for them.
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Sorry, what is a "one piece buddy"?? :confused:
 
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NickyBKK;285058 wrote: The CB500X comes standard with Pirelli Scorpions. :thumbup:

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That's un-be-effin-lievable! Isn't that a 5,000 baht value already?
 
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Ian Bungy;285067 wrote: My Friend has ordered a "X" but He told Me today they said about February before delivery. That is when the Honda Big Wing Showroom is supposed to open here in Chiang Mai.
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Hmmm, "about February" sounds like middle of April to me...
 
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NickyBKK;285059 wrote: I believe that the baby Ninja that is available here in Thailand has 250 CC with 27HP (or so?) for 147,000 THB (or so?)
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The Nija 250 is a bit more by now, 153,000 or so.

But - the more you pay, the more you get, and the Er6n with 650cc and around 70 hp is only 235,000 baht (the last time I checked).
For riders who want power that's the better deal.
For beginners or older farts like me who are happy with a 160 km/h top speed and prefer a good gas mileage over acceleration the Honda is right.
 
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TonyBKK;285017 wrote: And the naked ER6n is 204Kg (450lbs)

Still the 650's put out ~72Hp to the 500's ~47Hp, so power to weight is definitely in Kawasaki's favor.
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But what about bang for the buck?

Kawasaki - ER-6n at 250,000: 3,470 THB / HP
Honda - CBR500F at 200,000: 4,255 THB / HP

HP is not the end-all, be-all but I wanted to know ;)
 
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power is not everything my Ducati has 118bhp but 95% of the time only 50% gets used and thats mostly torque ,
the new Hondas interest me a lot as a second bike .
 
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Ian Bungy;285067 wrote: My Friend has ordered a "X" but He told Me today they said about February before delivery. That is when the Honda Big Wing Showroom is supposed to open here in Chiang Mai.
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At the Motor Expo here in BKK they told me they would start delivering bikes within this month. I will go to BIg Wing BKK this weekend and maybe buy/order one.

Most probably I will go for the X, I have to say that the looks of the other 2 models is better but here in LOS the X will be a great bike. Also like the standard Pirelli tyres.
 
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KZ25;285075 wrote: The Nija 250 is a bit more by now, 153,000 or so.

But - the more you pay, the more you get, and the Er6n with 650cc and around 70 hp is only 235,000 baht (the last time I checked).
For riders who want power that's the better deal.
For beginners or older farts like me who are happy with a 160 km/h top speed and prefer a good gas mileage over acceleration the Honda is right.
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ER6n is THB 250,000
ER6f is THB 265,000
 
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monsterman;285091 wrote: power is not everything my Ducati has 118bhp but 95% of the time only 50% gets used and thats mostly torque ,
the new Hondas interest me a lot as a second bike .
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Correct my Ducati has 100bhp and 75.9 lb-ft of torque. Together with a smaller front sprocket the bike is quite fast.
 
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nikster;285089 wrote: But what about bang for the buck?

Kawasaki - ER-6n at 250,000: 3,470 THB / HP
Honda - CBR500F at 200,000: 4,255 THB / HP

HP is not the end-all, be-all but I wanted to know ;)
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z1000 4,282 thb/hp
 
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