New Z800 to be made in Thailand?

[David Race]

According to a person who is well informed about the policy Kawasaki Thailand is following, the introduction of the Kawasaki Z800 would at the moment be market technical unadvised. Kawasaki still has stock of the Z1000, which they currently sell at 660,000 THB, and would be hard to justify if they sold the Kawasaki Z800 much cheaper in Thailand.

When the stock and current outstanding orders for the Kawasaki Z1000 are all sold we can expect that Kawasaki Thailand will revaluate the situation. So lets keep our fingers crossed and hope for the best.

I picked this quote from another forum incase many people did not see this.
Seems to make sense and we are all waiting to see.
So much speculation about this bike but what ever I expect it to be a little cheaper than the 800 Yamaha which is only right as the bike is made here.

 

[skybluestu]

MCN Z800 v Rivals test.

 

[TonyBKK]

^ Fantastic review! Reckon the Z800 will be an amazing bike for Thailand. Here's hoping Kawasaki will offer it for sale here soon!

 

[Javawa]

Ian Bungy;286928 wrote: Tony, The KX 250 & 450 Motocross Bikes will be sold in Thailand coming in the Next Month or so? I was inquiring at CM Kawasaki recently about any Bigger Dirt Bikes in the Future and they told Me then. I can't see them selling many? Now a Street Legal KLX450 YES!

These 2 bikes, according to the other forum, are now in the showroom of Kawasaki Chiangmai so have a look in case you are interested in them

 

[TonyBKK]

Javawa;287447 wrote: These 2 bikes, according to the other forum, are now in the showroom of Kawasaki Chiangmai so have a look in case you are interested in them

Was in Real Motorsports Kawasaki Dealer here in Bangkok last week and they had just received the KX250F and KX450F.

Prices are 335k Baht for the 250 and 375k Baht for the 450. Shame they don't import the street legal version of the 450...

 

[jimbobs]

Just got back from a 250 mille trip on my versys
Thank you guys for getting me buzzin about bikes again..
The uk was cold -boring-and full of speed cameras...

Bring on the affordable z800
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[sierradelta]

Hi Guys

I was in Aust 2 weeks ago and I priced the new Z800

I was given AUD$12,999 from both dealers (no discount at all, even for cash)

That is currently 393,600 Thai Baht (wow).

The Ducati 795 is currently 399,990 Thai Baht and the new 795 ABS is 429,000 Thai Baht

As the Z800 has ABS I would make a guess now at a target price should between the ER6N (254,000 Baht) and 795 ABS (429,000 Baht)

Thus the Z800 should be circa 341,500 Baht in Thailand

I hope they do keep it below 350K Baht…but my gut feel is they will try to rape the market at say ~$399,000 :thumbdown:

Cheers

SD

 

[TonyBKK]

sierradelta;288615 wrote: Hi Guys

I was in Aust 2 weeks ago and I priced the new Z800

I was given AUD$12,999 from both dealers (no discount at all, even for cash)

That is currently 393,600 Thai Baht (wow).

The Ducati 795 is currently 399,990 Thai Baht and the new 795 ABS is 429,000 Thai Baht

As the Z800 has ABS I would make a guess now at a target price should between the ER6N (254,000 Baht) and 795 ABS (429,000 Baht)

Thus the Z800 should be circa 341,500 Baht in Thailand

I hope they do keep it below 350K Baht…but my gut feel is they will try to rape the market at say ~$399,000 :thumbdown:

Cheers

SD

I reckon 399k would be a pretty fair price for the Z800 with ABS in Thailand. The Z1000 without ABS goes for something like 585k baht, right?

 

[yankee99]

TonyBKK;288620 wrote: I reckon 399k would be a pretty fair price for the Z800 with ABS in Thailand. The Z1000 without ABS goes for something like 585k baht, right?

591,000 in 2012 but 660,000 in 2013

 

[sierradelta]

yankee99;288622 wrote: 591,000 in 2012 but 660,000 in 2013

Yeah, something is really not quite right with the Pricing Dept at Kawasaki Thailand...

FX and CPI is one thing...but "old model stock" is another thing all together.

Any other country would be having an old model "run-out" sale....but TIT and if something doesn’t move…then they put the price UP?

My Kawasaki Thailand Website Pricing is a little off…maybe I forgot to add the VAT?...but I can’t read the Thai on their website, not sure if it was Inclusive or Exclusive of VAT?

Tony has the latest ER6N base price at 275K Baht

So that makes the estimated price for the Z800 circa 352K Baht.

So it will be a case of wishful thinking if the new Z800 will be 350K Baht or less.

She is bound to be between 350K and 399K baht for sure.

Nonetheless if she is <400K Baht, Unrestricted and ABS then for sure I will be thinking seriously about “up-sizing” for sure.

Only time will tell what geniuses at Kawasaki Thailand will do…! (But fark I wish they would hurry up and make a decision).

Cheers

SD

 

[TonyBKK]

Vehicle prices in Thailand, both new and second hand have little correlation to the rest of the world. TIT, it is what it is

Prices of ALL bikes went up due to the recent tax increase that the Thai government imposed on motorcycles. It's been covered pretty thoroughly in this thread:

[h=1]Motorcycle Tax Increases!!![/h]
I was going off old prices in my last post. Here are the new 2013 prices for Kawasaki (oddly enough the prices on their main website are still out of date...) :crazy:

 

[Changnoi1]

A bit OT but yesterday I was looking at the web-site of Kawasaki Real Motorsport Bangkok and they have now updated their price-list.
But it seems they are the Z250, while I do not see that on other Kawasaki Thailand web-sites. Doe anyone know why? Or just not updated web-site?

Chang Noi

 

[tobiascra]

sierradelta;288615 wrote: Hi Guys

I was in Aust 2 weeks ago and I priced the new Z800

I was given AUD$12,999 from both dealers (no discount at all, even for cash)

That is currently 393,600 Thai Baht (wow).

The Ducati 795 is currently 399,990 Thai Baht and the new 795 ABS is 429,000 Thai Baht

As the Z800 has ABS I would make a guess now at a target price should between the ER6N (254,000 Baht) and 795 ABS (429,000 Baht)

Thus the Z800 should be circa 341,500 Baht in Thailand

I hope they do keep it below 350K Baht…but my gut feel is they will try to rape the market at say ~$399,000 :thumbdown:

Cheers

SD

Your right they are going to have to price the Z800 in-between the Monster and the ER6N. Correct me if i'm wrong but isn't the monster expensive because they have to pay tax importing the pieces before its Assembled here in Thailand. Aren't the pieces from Italy or somewhere like that? Whereas the Kawasaki Z800 would be totally made here like the ER6N is, right? So in affect the price should be fair amount cheaper then the Monster???

Does this sound right?

 

[jimbobs]

I have just been to a Kwaka dealership in Mexico to look at the Z800 and i have to say i was a little disappointed by the looks of it, i had 3 freinds with me and they liked the ER6N more and i have to say the Ninga 636 looked in a different league.

I was blown away by the promo pics but the bike looked a bit cheep in the flesh with a lot of plastic, i would still consider buying one if they become available in Thailand but it will depend on price now, it is probably a great bike but i am in the take it or leave it catagory now which will please my bank balance and my wife.

The colour i looked at was the green and black the one i would of chosen , still i dont let looks dictate completely if i but a bike or not i bought a brown verseys.

 

[yankee99]

tobiascra;289108 wrote: Your right they are going to have to price the Z800 in-between the Monster and the ER6N. Correct me if i'm wrong but isn't the monster expensive because they have to pay tax importing the pieces before its Assembled here in Thailand. Aren't the pieces from Italy or somewhere like that? Whereas the Kawasaki Z800 would be totally made here like the ER6N is, right? So in affect the price should be fair amount cheaper then the Monster???

Does this sound right?

Not sure it needs to be between them. I am going to assume it is superior to the entry level ducati.

 

[sierradelta]

jimbobs;289109 wrote: I have just been to a Kwaka dealership in Mexico to look at the Z800 and i have to say i was a little disappointed by the looks of it, i had 3 freinds with me and they liked the ER6N more and i have to say the Ninga 636 looked in a different league.

I was blown away by the promo pics but the bike looked a bit cheep in the flesh with a lot of plastic, i would still consider buying one if they become available in Thailand but it will depend on price now, it is probably a great bike but i am in the take it or leave it catagory now which will please my bank balance and my wife.

The colour i looked at was the green and black the one i would of chosen , still i dont let looks dictate completely if i but a bike or not i bought a brown verseys.

Agree with the look comment, I looked at the Green/Black combo...it is unusual to say the least.

Aftermarket pipe/s would be first things to change to make it look better IMHO.

The new ZX-R 636 is pure sex on 2 wheels and if they ever offered that here for a "realistic" price I would get that in a heartbeat for sure.

 

[tobiascra]

yankee99;289110 wrote: Not sure it needs to be between them. I am going to assume it is superior to the entry level ducati.

I hope your assumption is wrong dude, I would love it to be around 350,000 or less LOL Also if anyone has any further info, please share.. I can't wait

 

[garethw]

tobiascra;289541 wrote: I hope your assumption is wrong dude, I would love it to be around 350,000 or less LOL Also if anyone has any further info, please share.. I can't wait

I went in to Kawasaki Pattaya this afternoon to look at the ER6-N, the salesman there said to expect the Z800 to be for sale in a few months time. He then went onto say at the next bike / motor show it will be unveiled. It was enough to stop me looking further at the ER6. Im in no rush to buy a road bike so can wait a while longer. Price wise he said to expect around 400,000 baht.

 

[Linds]

Would be good addition to the market ,but that coming from mityon pattaya taken with a pinch of msg.
Also they cant be trying to sell the big stock they have there at the moment.

 

[jimbobs]

I would seriously consider it for 400,000b as there does not seem anything out there for the money, apart from the Ducati 795 of which i know nothing about.Which is the better bike does anyone have an opinion of this having ridden both?

I would like to hire one 1st as i live in Isaan in the sticks and have struggled to keep rubber side down on my versys getting to my home, i bought a KLX 250 to combat this , and i seem to use the KLX alot more than the Versys at the moment.I am not sure i have the skill to ride the Z800 on a muddy track to my home.

But hey not many of us really use common sense when it comes to buying a bike right? . Or is that just me

Safe riding guys

 

[TonyBKK]

I tried to get some info about the Z800 in Thailand earlier this week, but it really seems that the staff in Thailand don't have any definitive information yet.

They did mention that there are 2 versions of the Z800 and that IF it's sold in Thailand it will probably be the lower spec 95Hp Z800e...

Disappointing if true... I reminded them of what a flop the restricted ZX10R was when they tried to sell it in Thailand in 2010. It was by far the cheapest liter bike in the country, but sold terribly because no one wants a restricted super bike.

Why do they think it would be different with the Z800?

Time will tell, but I'm not terribly optimistic.

More info about the Z800e:

http://www.kawasaki.co.uk/Z800e

 

[jimbobs]

Is it a big job to de restrict Tony? And is the watered down version because of emissions?, 95 is not bad i suppose but it does make you feel like youd be buying a second rate bike,,a bit disappointing that,

TonyBKK;291068 wrote: I tried to get some info about the Z800 in Thailand earlier this week, but it really seems that the staff in Thailand don't have any definitive information yet.

They did mention that there are 2 versions of the Z800 and that IF it's sold in Thailand it will probably be the lower spec 95Hp Z800e...

Disappointing if true... I reminded them of what a flop the restricted ZX10R was when they tried to sell it in Thailand in 2010. It was by far the cheapest liter bike in the country, but sold terribly because no one wants a restricted super bike.

Why do they think it would be different with the Z800?

Time will tell, but I'm not terribly optimistic.

More info about the Z800e:

http://www.kawasaki.co.uk/Z800e

 

[skybluestu]

TonyBKK;291068 wrote: I tried to get some info about the Z800 in Thailand earlier this week, but it really seems that the staff in Thailand don't have any definitive information yet.

They did mention that there are 2 versions of the Z800 and that IF it's sold in Thailand it will probably be the lower spec 95Hp Z800e...

Disappointing if true... I reminded them of what a flop the restricted ZX10R was when they tried to sell it in Thailand in 2010. It was by far the cheapest liter bike in the country, but sold terribly because no one wants a restricted super bike.

Why do they think it would be different with the Z800?

Time will tell, but I'm not terribly optimistic.

More info about the Z800e:

http://www.kawasaki.co.uk/Z800e

Saw a copy of what is supposedly the emmissions certificate from Thailand done last month and the good news is it was the full power Z800A that was tested

 

[Joelthailand]

Could this be a z800 sitting in Kawasaki's showroom!!

 

[nikster]

Coming soon... well the Z800e version has much nicer color schemes, FWIW. The A ones are a mess, including that green black one pictured above... which means that the above is an A I guess?!