Kawasaki ER-6n released for 225,000,- Baht
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Hi Franz!
Ive heard nothing but good things about the Diablo Rosso Corsa III but from reading the reviews it sounds like more of a sport tire than sport touring...
It is compared to sport tires like the Dunlop D208, Bridgestone BT010 and BT012, Michelin Pilot Sport and Metzeler Sportec M-1
So- I've no doubt it's an outstanding tire, but I'm not sure it would last any longer than the Pirelli Dragon's that I'm running now. To be honest- I'm really not sure what the difference is between the Pirelli Dragon and Diablo lines...
Guess there's only one way to find out - I'll have to give 'em a try! 8)
Hi Tony,
Yes 13K from the original OEM Bridgestones, you may remember at Kanchanaburi, i was having a wet grip problem as my front had a flat worn on one side. Back tyre was squared off but still had some tread.
Changed the front on the way home for the Pirelli Diablo Rosso (I think thats not the same as the Corsa).. Next ride out puncture in the back tyre so changed that.
New tyres did 13,800km, still some tread, but rear tyre flatted off, slick for the central 40mm or so, then had puncture, so replaced both F and R.
The FJR has a lot of torque, I do not really accelerate hard in low gears, and mostly use engine braking, I think I am fairly easy on the tyres. Not into the burnouts!, and ABS and linked brakes make it difficult to leave skid marks.
Yes 13K from the original OEM Bridgestones, you may remember at Kanchanaburi, i was having a wet grip problem as my front had a flat worn on one side. Back tyre was squared off but still had some tread.
Changed the front on the way home for the Pirelli Diablo Rosso (I think thats not the same as the Corsa).. Next ride out puncture in the back tyre so changed that.
New tyres did 13,800km, still some tread, but rear tyre flatted off, slick for the central 40mm or so, then had puncture, so replaced both F and R.
The FJR has a lot of torque, I do not really accelerate hard in low gears, and mostly use engine braking, I think I am fairly easy on the tyres. Not into the burnouts!, and ABS and linked brakes make it difficult to leave skid marks.
Tony,
I am most interested in this bike, would attach sidecar. Because I can't test ride it myself( without the stabilizing 3rd wheel)
would you occasionally post a seating position photo, side view?
Understand it's a relatively short bike, any handling observations, comfort on long rides ?
Pico
I am most interested in this bike, would attach sidecar. Because I can't test ride it myself( without the stabilizing 3rd wheel)
would you occasionally post a seating position photo, side view?
Understand it's a relatively short bike, any handling observations, comfort on long rides ?
Pico
Colin, point well taken.
Tony, I like your pig analogy very much ! A pig instead of a sledge dog, why on earth?
Now , to explain myself a bit more, I am very very happy with my Silverwing, for normal riding. Headache it causes in extreme situations, because of the belt automatic, going slow up very steep hills and I never know is it the belt still pulling or the clutch. Risk of overheating, losing all grip. Makes simply insecure. Can't afford to get stuck between hills in remote areas. For that reason I didn't dare to go into Lao. Here help is never too far.
Joe and I have been brainstorming a lot.
Goldwing/ Valkyrie =
+ comfy, strong, reverse gear
- to much plastic, too pompous, bloody expensive. Does the ratio = more fun than Silverwing versus massiv expenditure make sense? Highly questionable.
BMW LT tempting, but again the fun/expenditure ratio question. Will I get that much more living pleasure out of it?
At least that ratio speaks for the Kawa, but the rest apparently not.
I know , gentlemen, I am blabbering more to myself and one day I will come to a conclusion.
But right now I am enjoying this small pain of the decision making process.
After all , each and every day I say to myself=
Another boring day in paradise. Who can tolerate so much happiness?
Pico
Tony, I like your pig analogy very much ! A pig instead of a sledge dog, why on earth?
Now , to explain myself a bit more, I am very very happy with my Silverwing, for normal riding. Headache it causes in extreme situations, because of the belt automatic, going slow up very steep hills and I never know is it the belt still pulling or the clutch. Risk of overheating, losing all grip. Makes simply insecure. Can't afford to get stuck between hills in remote areas. For that reason I didn't dare to go into Lao. Here help is never too far.
Joe and I have been brainstorming a lot.
Goldwing/ Valkyrie =
+ comfy, strong, reverse gear
- to much plastic, too pompous, bloody expensive. Does the ratio = more fun than Silverwing versus massiv expenditure make sense? Highly questionable.
BMW LT tempting, but again the fun/expenditure ratio question. Will I get that much more living pleasure out of it?
At least that ratio speaks for the Kawa, but the rest apparently not.
I know , gentlemen, I am blabbering more to myself and one day I will come to a conclusion.
But right now I am enjoying this small pain of the decision making process.
After all , each and every day I say to myself=
Another boring day in paradise. Who can tolerate so much happiness?
Pico
John & Tony, sorry I reply so late; well mine were gone after 7.000 kms but much better grip than the original Bridgies (6.000kms) and much better grip in all conditions. Yep Tony they're Sport tyres for use on a R1 and not on a big f... like the FJR. John, try the Sport Touring Tyres, they're on mine now and they actually wear very little but are a more slippery than the Rosso's. Called Diablo Strada, need to get warmed up properly before leaning into them. Cost nearly the same but fit the bike more than the Bridgestones. My Diablo Rossos were worn down to the thread on the backtyre and the front was ugly triangle shaped with no more grip in any turn. Bike was nearly impossible to steer in a narrow curve always headed straight.......So both of you, give the Pirelli's a try :lol: , guy at Pirelli Thailand is very helpful, I've posted somewhere on a tyre post. Cheers, Franz
Hi Pico,
What power/torque range are you searching for?
If I understand well, you "need" à 3rd wheel, don't you?
IMHO, the ER6 should not be so convenient. It's a sport-touring bike: body a bit bent over the tank, feet a bit high and shocks a bit stiff, and as said Captain you should lose in comfort for sure in comparison with the Silverwing...
Why wouldn't you consider a "modern" dual-purpose bike as a Yam TDM or a Honda Transalp or some other model like that?.. You get some good middle range power and torque. "Modern" dual-purpose bikes are not "enduro" bikes and though they are sometimes a bit high, they are easy to handle and comfortable enough for long rides. Further more, IMHO, they are sufficiently smooth and "peaceful" to be handled with a side-car... You can too adjust the shocks for a softer ride...
For my part I own a BMW F650GS (single cylinder: 50hp/6mkg) and you drive it like a cow-boy riding a horse... I mean you are sat in the hollow of a good saddle, body straight, legs at ease and the handle-bar just come right in your hands, arms relaxed...
Slowly or quickly, no fear, no surprise... It's like a bicycle with an engine... Or a toy in the city trafic or on dirt roads... And I can easily imagine this bike with a side-car...
Just my two cents (of Euro :wink: )...
Cheers,
Gobs
What power/torque range are you searching for?
If I understand well, you "need" à 3rd wheel, don't you?
IMHO, the ER6 should not be so convenient. It's a sport-touring bike: body a bit bent over the tank, feet a bit high and shocks a bit stiff, and as said Captain you should lose in comfort for sure in comparison with the Silverwing...
Why wouldn't you consider a "modern" dual-purpose bike as a Yam TDM or a Honda Transalp or some other model like that?.. You get some good middle range power and torque. "Modern" dual-purpose bikes are not "enduro" bikes and though they are sometimes a bit high, they are easy to handle and comfortable enough for long rides. Further more, IMHO, they are sufficiently smooth and "peaceful" to be handled with a side-car... You can too adjust the shocks for a softer ride...
For my part I own a BMW F650GS (single cylinder: 50hp/6mkg) and you drive it like a cow-boy riding a horse... I mean you are sat in the hollow of a good saddle, body straight, legs at ease and the handle-bar just come right in your hands, arms relaxed...
Slowly or quickly, no fear, no surprise... It's like a bicycle with an engine... Or a toy in the city trafic or on dirt roads... And I can easily imagine this bike with a side-car...
Just my two cents (of Euro :wink: )...
Cheers,
Gobs
Hi Friends,
Nothing as confortable as a BMW GS 1200 Adventure, believe I tried quite a lot of bikes and have some still, but I never had a so confortable and nice to ride as the GS.
When I was intending to buy one some month ago, one of you said that i'ld feel like the "King of the Road"...that's right and it's good.
Nothing as confortable as a BMW GS 1200 Adventure, believe I tried quite a lot of bikes and have some still, but I never had a so confortable and nice to ride as the GS.
When I was intending to buy one some month ago, one of you said that i'ld feel like the "King of the Road"...that's right and it's good.
Hi Laurent,
Good to hear you have the same feeling.
Of course what I should have said, is ONE of the KINGS of the road, because I already feel that way and we cannot have too many of the above mentioned over here
Good to hear you have the same feeling.
Of course what I should have said, is ONE of the KINGS of the road, because I already feel that way and we cannot have too many of the above mentioned over here
Can anyone recommend tyres for ER-6n for a ermh... difficult roads. Lets just say that I need to drive from Ulan Batoor (Mongolia) to Kiev in Ukraine.
Thats about 7.500 km but half of it is pretty bad almost like off road driving and I know this bike is not best for those roads, but what kind of tyres would you recommend?
Thats about 7.500 km but half of it is pretty bad almost like off road driving and I know this bike is not best for those roads, but what kind of tyres would you recommend?
Ozz1
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I did the first 1'200 km before service on the Mae Sariang - Mai Sot loop. Just love it 
. I am just a "touring guy" and have no other "technical" comments than very smooth and easy riding.
Enough space with the Giwi for 2 weeks stuff
Pictures from the Chiang Mai - Mae Sariang - Mae Sot loop are here:
http://picasaweb.google.com/campusadvise/MaeSotShortLoop
. I am just a "touring guy" and have no other "technical" comments than very smooth and easy riding.
Enough space with the Giwi for 2 weeks stuff
Pictures from the Chiang Mai - Mae Sariang - Mae Sot loop are here:
http://picasaweb.google.com/campusadvise/MaeSotShortLoop
I am not good enough in spraying ! Yes Nikster, it is the official kit from Kawa (for white lovers). Just 10'000 THB and, in addition, you get all the black parts, if one day mood is changing. I found it quite amazing! It is a pearl white, of course I found it lovely , but it is certainly a question of taste.
It seems that this colour is for models exported to Europe and they kept some here, if I understood well.
! Yes Nikster, it is the official kit from Kawa (for white lovers). Just 10'000 THB and, in addition, you get all the black parts, if one day mood is changing. I found it quite amazing! It is a pearl white, of course I found it lovely , but it is certainly a question of taste.It seems that this colour is for models exported to Europe and they kept some here, if I understood well.
... love is blind, I would have paid more (even without the black spare parts) ... but no need to tell Kawa about it :twisted:
Jurgen wrote: I did the first 1'200 km before service on the Mae Sariang - Mai Sot loop. Just love it
Jurgen
Congratulations on the new bike.
A lot of folks are looking for a good aftermarket screen for their ER6n and the choices from Givi and Puig leave something to be desired.
Just spotted this creative solution the other day-
It's the stock Kawasaki windscreen from the Ninja 650R/ER6f :mrgreen:
WAY bigger than the little screens on offer from Puig and Givi and at only 600 Baht it's a fraction of the cost as well!
Just have to have the mounting brackets made up- pretty simple job that just about any metal working shop should be able to do for a few hundred Baht.
Apologies for the terrible quality pics- taken with phone camera.
Ride On!
Tony
Just spotted this creative solution the other day-
It's the stock Kawasaki windscreen from the Ninja 650R/ER6f :mrgreen:
WAY bigger than the little screens on offer from Puig and Givi and at only 600 Baht it's a fraction of the cost as well!
Just have to have the mounting brackets made up- pretty simple job that just about any metal working shop should be able to do for a few hundred Baht.
Apologies for the terrible quality pics- taken with phone camera.
Ride On!
Tony
Was considering to have something mounted today (leaving for an Isan tour tomorrow). Now I hesitate! Maybe I better let it open till I am back. Thank you for the hint
Thanks for that Tony....doesn't look too fugly .....may look into it for doing some long distance miles. Agree with you on the Puig / Givi screens....over priced crap.