Ya Pikey I'm aware of that also hoe hew hot rod asociatiosn got started. One of my older Brothers rode with the Angles out of the San Bernardino Branch. Healo did a lo in roion. Todya they are much different thing. People I envison a gang of thug riding into a town. Not hardly they control a lot of things that are illegal these days. Thaer aer enforcers within the groups.
My fovorite story abou then was a guy named Gekn Hagly in Plam Sorings a collector adn enforcer. He wa good a his job, to say the least. He was in Court one day lost it an just walked out with a judge in mid sentence.
The baliff in the court was one of those guys that should really have been driving a Bus, anyway he tries to stop him. Someone in the court hits the panic button. I came out to see Hegley walking out of the court very purpossfully with a deputy hanging off his back. I stepped in front of him, never raised my voice and told him Glen put the deputy down. He did after getting him calmed down a bit. He went back into court for his butt chewing.
A few years later he took a ride into South America, in the process he was kidnapped can't remember the country but I think it was Columbia. This was a guy who was buff workd out all the time had to be on steriods. On his release he may have weighed 160 lbs. Today Glen is a born again Christen and tells his story to anyone who wants to listen. Hells Angels today are far from the motorcycle gangs of old, They are a business.
Cops don't have trouble with motorcycle gangs today, not becasue they are afraid it screws up their income. Most of the original Hells Angels if any are alive today are in their 70's and 80's.
Most of them were outrageous by 1950 standards not the standards of today. :lol:
Oh well next thing you know I will chattin about my experiences with the Manson family anyone remember who they were :cry:
Enough of this stuff lets talk about bikes much more fun.
Yuo know one of things I really like about bikes they are not welded together and If a guy gets drunk and rides I dont have to ride with him and I don't simple as that. I don't want to see him hurt someone else. Nor do I want do pick up the pieces of him and his bike because he intentionally put himself in a bad position. Not a moral thing I'm kind of selfish like that
We have a dangerous hobby and things happen, if someone goes down that I'm riding with in my mind I need to step up and help and I do. So best not to ride with someone who is drunk, for me. Cause I know I won't leave him. So best for me to just avoid the situation.
I'm no angle I have done the very same thing but heck I'm 62 now hope I have learned something along the way. :roll:
To get back on subject the first thing i want to do is recognize gtrifders fro waht it is. If anyhting ha helped to build the ride community this is it. I just went into an area that I had never been before adn I for the most part even knew waht hotles I was goign to eb staying in. I got maps that can not be equaled fro the area. I met guys on loop every day that I had connections with through gtridres. I knew about road condition ahead of me not a week ago. But that day from conversations with these guys.
I ahev problems with my bikes the first place I go is not to the loacl Thai mecahinic it's gtriders, I know what I need by the time I see the mechanic.
Gtriders helped to establish the ride list here just about anybody who is now uses the ride list checks out gtriders several times a week. David gave us Essarn section, he didn't have to. Esar has very litle to do with the Golden Triangle.
We in gtriders have tee shirts and logos to recognize each other available. No one is forced to yes them, but most of us take pride in being a part of such a wonderul thing.
You guys up there get together for MotoGP ect. With I had the same thing here I don't yet.
Maybe with Dan's inspiration and help maybe some day I will. This is in no meant to replace Gtriders bt to augment beyond Northern Thailand
I designed the freedom patch in all honesty never envisoned it being a group thing, it means soemthing very important to me. As do the badges from the departments I worked for over the years. That freedom concept meant something to Dan as well.
He asked me to incorporate it in to his idea. I was more then happy to do so. I fully support him and his idea.
Someday maybe we will be able to have what you guys in the North have. We have guys who ride with club on the ride lsit. Some of the guys in those clubs are no on the lsist. For soem that means a group to get together with once a month and have fwe beers, not really about riding.
The guys that en on that list and participate it;' about riding and sharing good times together. Here thta is the only way you are going to find those special spots as you see all over the Gtriders maps. That doesnlt exist heree. Over the next year I going to try to nail down some of the long ime riders here and get those routes in writing
You know I'm a VFW member have been for six years, haven't been to a meeting in fivcve years, just not my thing. So I'm not agianst club just agianst them for me.
Today there are very few places in Thailand thatw I can go to with out meetign up with someone I know and have never seen before. Gtriders did that.
Mna I wih I wa as talewnted a David and could make those maps. The loop was beautiful, but there are beautiful rides here as well. But your only going to learn them riding with others.
I have asked David about doing a map of Issan similiar to those available for Loas and the north. But David is a straight up guy if he hasn't ridden it he won't do it and I admire him for that.
He alo one person keeping things updated on what he ha already done is a full time job. Maybe some day we can accomplish something like he has done for this area. But I'm the wrong guy for that.
Whether you decide to participate in IROT or not I really recommend getting a ride list going of your area. If you enjoy sharing the expeirence with others.
The list in Udon Strated with three guys that had been riding a lot together fo years. The Udon list ha 43 riders on it now. There is now a second list in Khon Kean for sports bike riders. John handles that so I have no idea how many riders are on it.
Pretty simple stuff post rides, when people show up get their email addresses after you eaxplain what it's for. Or jsut give yours to them.
You know after a couple of years it gets pretty tough coming up with something new each week. So l always encourage guy to post here ideas and we can go check the things they know about. No one is charge, we just help eachother get it done.
Amazing I think I have said every thing I have to say about this, a Forrest Gump moment :shock:
I'm going back to my monster trip report you guys have fun :wink:
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