Tony ...most of the Pattaya rental big bikes seem to be back on the road and are now legal...make sure the bike you rent has a White plate and tags and wear a helmet . If the bike has a red plate ,no plate or tags walk away.
Chiang Mai Big Bike Police Crackdown
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Ray 50,000 is an average some of the bikes were 400s some 1000cc the 400s cost about 40k to register the big bikes up to 80k she had 26 bikes and with fines etc it may have been more she paid out 2,5m for the 26 bikes.
Do you know what the physical proceedure was?
Time for a little rumor Control:
A local dealer her is telling the guys wihtout books that if they go to Bangkok and pay the taxes on the bike they don't need the book and the Police won't sieze it.
True or not true?
I think I already know the answer to this but I don'tt want say anything without asking people who are in the area, before saying anyhting. Human Beings Being human beings and always taking the path of least residence. The guys want to beleive it.
Time for a little rumor Control:
A local dealer her is telling the guys wihtout books that if they go to Bangkok and pay the taxes on the bike they don't need the book and the Police won't sieze it.
True or not true?
I think I already know the answer to this but I don'tt want say anything without asking people who are in the area, before saying anyhting. Human Beings Being human beings and always taking the path of least residence. The guys want to beleive it.
Dazza. just put a tarp over the bike they cant see it no problem. By Thai law you should have side bars or a cover over the load anyway. especially if you go on an elevated highway or motorway. I got a 500baht fine in Bkk for this, the bike was strapped down fine no movement, but that didn't matter. Allan
Let me try my question a different way
Has anyone or someone you know been stopped, with just the invoice showing import taxes paid?
If so was the bike siezed?
I have a book cost me 70K but there are lot of guys here who were told they didn't need one a few years back, which was true a few years back since it wasn't enforced. The economy stinks they are living on fixed incomes that is big chunk of money to them. They have the import Ect, but they a afraid to ride.
So the need an answer they need to know if he bike will be siezed if they get caught up in this.
The only information I can offer at this point is don't go to Pattaya or Chaing Mai, they are not fluent english speakers and can't understand what being posted.
Can anyone offer some help on this one. I frankly don't know
Has anyone or someone you know been stopped, with just the invoice showing import taxes paid?
If so was the bike siezed?
I have a book cost me 70K but there are lot of guys here who were told they didn't need one a few years back, which was true a few years back since it wasn't enforced. The economy stinks they are living on fixed incomes that is big chunk of money to them. They have the import Ect, but they a afraid to ride.
So the need an answer they need to know if he bike will be siezed if they get caught up in this.
The only information I can offer at this point is don't go to Pattaya or Chaing Mai, they are not fluent english speakers and can't understand what being posted.
Can anyone offer some help on this one. I frankly don't know
Some clubs had a meeting in BKK last sat. I was in the middle of the Pacific Ocean then, but here is what my Thai friend says when asked what they discussed:
"It's obviously. No register vihicle can not be run in publication road.
Just invoice or make new number on the frame, illegal...
Invoice + tax (excise) = ok, but still can not be use in public road. You may use it as a race bike only in circuit..
The thing is, it is not everybody can pay this tax(excise), it must be the company who especially set up for this matter.
Then, you only can register when you already pay the tax(excise) and pass the TIS.
Anyhow, Thailand will use the higher standard in near future... that's mean it will be very difficult to pass this standard.
And it means the registration price will be much higher than today...
Luckily... yours and mine already registered, don't you think so...?"
A bit lost in translation i think, not sure what he ment with some bits.
Tom
"It's obviously. No register vihicle can not be run in publication road.
Just invoice or make new number on the frame, illegal...
Invoice + tax (excise) = ok, but still can not be use in public road. You may use it as a race bike only in circuit..
The thing is, it is not everybody can pay this tax(excise), it must be the company who especially set up for this matter.
Then, you only can register when you already pay the tax(excise) and pass the TIS.
Anyhow, Thailand will use the higher standard in near future... that's mean it will be very difficult to pass this standard.
And it means the registration price will be much higher than today...
Luckily... yours and mine already registered, don't you think so...?"
A bit lost in translation i think, not sure what he ment with some bits.
Tom
Two recent rego problems in Chiang Mai recounted to me
1. A 1000cc bike bought & registered in Bkk awhile ago. The rego was transferred to Chiang Mai successfully a year ago.
In the last couple of weeks, the bike was sold to another Cnx resident & an attempt was made to transfer the ownership / rego in Chiang Mai at the Motorcycle Div of Land Transport. No problem you'd expect as the bike was already registered in Cnx with a rego transferred from Bkk plus a vehicle inspection. But NO WAY - refused by the Cnx office. The bike rego nos. are not correct. You can keep the bike registered, but no transfer of ownership.
2. An attempt to renew the rego & change address on a 250, already registered in Bkk. Cannot do sir, this bike does not have the correct nos. The rego has been cancelled! Fortunately the owner still has the book, bike & plate, but cannot get the rego renewed or transferred.
The times they are a changing (for the worse?) :cry:
1. A 1000cc bike bought & registered in Bkk awhile ago. The rego was transferred to Chiang Mai successfully a year ago.
In the last couple of weeks, the bike was sold to another Cnx resident & an attempt was made to transfer the ownership / rego in Chiang Mai at the Motorcycle Div of Land Transport. No problem you'd expect as the bike was already registered in Cnx with a rego transferred from Bkk plus a vehicle inspection. But NO WAY - refused by the Cnx office. The bike rego nos. are not correct. You can keep the bike registered, but no transfer of ownership.
2. An attempt to renew the rego & change address on a 250, already registered in Bkk. Cannot do sir, this bike does not have the correct nos. The rego has been cancelled! Fortunately the owner still has the book, bike & plate, but cannot get the rego renewed or transferred.
The times they are a changing (for the worse?) :cry:
Hi David,
you wrote: The bike rego nos. are not correct"". Which part is that, engine number, frame number or ?
Also, I heard some bikes are registered in another province and do not pass the strict rules in Chiang Mai so they can not have a Chiang Mai plate. Does that mean those bikes are still legal to drive in Chiang Mai or should you legally transfer to the province you live ?
Hans
you wrote: The bike rego nos. are not correct"". Which part is that, engine number, frame number or ?
Also, I heard some bikes are registered in another province and do not pass the strict rules in Chiang Mai so they can not have a Chiang Mai plate. Does that mean those bikes are still legal to drive in Chiang Mai or should you legally transfer to the province you live ?
Hans
Hans they go by the frame number or at least everytime I have seen them scratch the number that is where they have gotten it from.
Actually logical for a change, engines can blow up and be replaced as a unit.
I beleive they are supposed to be rigistered in the Province you live in. It really is not unusual for them to be registered in a different provience I have seen that on Phantoms, Down side the renewal must done in the provience where it's registered. So bike hops will send the info to, like in my case to Bangkok just takes a, little longer to get the new sticker. In the meantime you have the receipt.
But lots of changes in the air, so we will see. I will move mine this year to Udon.
Actually logical for a change, engines can blow up and be replaced as a unit.
I beleive they are supposed to be rigistered in the Province you live in. It really is not unusual for them to be registered in a different provience I have seen that on Phantoms, Down side the renewal must done in the provience where it's registered. So bike hops will send the info to, like in my case to Bangkok just takes a, little longer to get the new sticker. In the meantime you have the receipt.
But lots of changes in the air, so we will see. I will move mine this year to Udon.
The bike would have appeared to have been re-stamped, so that the engine & frame nos. match up to something that is / was once registered.
The guys at the Cnx motorcycle rego office have in their computer a list of bike frame / engine nos. with the appropriate photo of the model bike that it should be. If your bike photo does not match up with the bike model photo in their computer you’ve got a problem.
BTW all of this has been discussed many times on GT Rider, in particular at
https://www.gt-rider.com/thailand-motorc ... t1831.html
For those who want to keep discussing “Big Bike Registration Confusion” then it is better to use that thread
https://www.gt-rider.com/thailand-motorc ... t1831.html
as the title is most appropriate.
Then this topic “ Chiang Mai Big Bike Police Crackdown” can be used for news / info on the Chiang Mai big bike police crackdown; otherwise it’s becoming full of junk.
Is there any information on what has been done with the bikes that have been seized?
My hope (a long shot, I'm sure) is that the police/customs/land transport office will establish some procedure to legalize these bikes if they are not stolen bikes and/or have their invoice documents in order.
My hope (a long shot, I'm sure) is that the police/customs/land transport office will establish some procedure to legalize these bikes if they are not stolen bikes and/or have their invoice documents in order.
