Hoghead, as said anything less than 200kms is for bicycle or up to 40km/h scooter riders.
As this one is a bigger one I would suggest we leave at the X-Center earlier at 09:00 latest as there will have to be a short stop at Doi Angkhang and maybe also in Fang or Wiang Papao or Phrao.
If there are some smaller bikes too they could skip the Mae Suaey-Wiangpapao-Phrao route and go Doi Angkhang-Chaiprakan-Phrao via the small one directly or we all go if too tired from the days before..........................:sick:
I'm in anyway, doesn't matter if we go that route or another one.