Hi
This is actuall what happen and i can say money never left from my hand and i did not loose anything, but here is FULL and LONG story and "REAL"(used names and email address) non edited Story
AGAIN, this is very long, sorry about that but i want to share this so no one will loose money for this guys.
SO there was add in Baht & Sold months ago about Black Goldwing in BKK price tag 300.000thb,, WOW i said and with out hesitation I replied to that and after one day I got mail back what has been sent to many other addresses as well, Stating that he has got over whelming amount of replies(no wonder there as bike cost in TH abt 900.000thb)
So I replied to him that I would be interested still, and then all start to go wrong and he got my attention.
So NEXT mail from him was nice pictures of the bike and all paperwork’s and invoices are included, BUT bike is on Kuantan, Malaysia.
Then he asked my phone number what I gave to him (mobile) and he called to me and we talk about 30minutes on the phone.
He said that if I like to go in Kuantan and have a look of the bike im more than welcome, bike is stored in British Royal Navy ware house and he even gave phone number and storage number of the bike, so if I wanted to see it I need to call and make appointment and they will show it to me as he is currently in UK for arranging his new army post.
Then I said that I have no connection to get that bike to Thailand legally and so cant get more future than this, he said that he will check something out from his colleagues in Malaysia and he will come back to me later.
Next day, he called again and he said that his “colleagues” can shipped that bike with Royal Navy supply boat to Thailand with diplomatic immunity and so for no need to pay taxes and papers are legal, but I need to pay that transportation in advance what is amount of 5000Ringget (50.000THB) and he would not accept credit card or pay pal, only payment is by using Western Union money transfer I told him that I need to think about it as 50K is a lot of money to give some one with out seeing the bike it self and I haven’t see any Pictures when bike it is in Malaysia, so he told me to think about it and he will call again next day as he did.
Next day his voice was bit more demanding and he was pressing down me to pay him that 50K, very soon or he will sell the bike to others, when I said that if he feels that way he can sell it to others, when he heard me to say so he came up with many excuses and then it HAPPEN, my Security personality kicked in, I started to listen how he speak, how he select his word’s and terms he uses, those where NOT a words of English Marine Officer(what I confirmed day earlier with my Security Colleague, who actually worked in Royal navy and Queens private yacht as security personnel)
So he uses what I could identified from the voice as Afrikaans dialect and become more rude and hostile towards to me when im backing off from the deal, BUT I had a last ACE in my back pocked, as mentioned earlier My Colleague worked in Royal navy, so we decided that he would like to set up the meeting with this guy face to face in UK, so I let this “dealer” know that my friend will be contacting him and so he did, sent him mail and setting up the meeting, outcome was as expected He was suddenly n his holiday in Cyprys and will not come back to UK any time soon, and in his mail to me he claims to got a NAVY position in UK already, and so meeting never happen and he haven’t been in touch with me since.
Here is his NAME and emails what he sent to me and you can see his email addy as well, so if any one comes across this person again, know that he is scam artist.
His 1st email
Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 11:50:46 -0700
From: [email [email protected]][email protected][/email]
Subject: 2006 Honda Goldwing black on black
To: [email [email protected]][email protected][/email]
Hello Guys
I got such a massive reply for my bike advert that I get a feeling am offering is a bit too cheap so i'm gonna sell to the highest bidder.
ABOUT MY BIKE-----I bought my bike cash brand new in Malaysia late last year....so for all of you who ask for green book you know the answer because my bike is in kuantan Malaysia....but since i have the invoice ithink you can get a the green book documentation done over there for between 70,000Bht-100,000Bht or better do your own research.
I'm trying to sell in Thailand and Malaysia. If you are buying for Malaysian use the price is 50,000 Malaysia Ringgits(no bargaining because its registered and insured here)
ABOUT ME------I'm british and a naval soldier assigned to The Royal Malaysian Navy for the past 10months. I've just been reassigned back to England hence why i'm selling my bike cos its too expensive to ship there. I need to sell fast because i resume my new post soon. The pictures you saw where taken on tuesday!!!
So guys if you are interested send me a mail with your offer for the bike so I could seperate the serious guys from the other guys. I'll send the serious guys more pictures of different parts of the bike.
Yours sincerely
Martin
Note:- For those of you asking for finance....the answer is NO....I bought cash and will sell cash (thats the whole idea of the low price).
2nd Mail
Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 11:05:58 -0700
From: [email [email protected]][email protected][/email]
Subject: RE: 2006 Honda Goldwing black on black
To: me
Hello Marco
Here are the pictures you requested. I hope to get a mail with your offer very fast because i need to make a decision and conclude the deal asap. see the attachment.
Waiting to read from you
Martin
3rd Mail
Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 03:56:22 -0700
From: [email [email protected]][email protected][/email]
Subject: RE: 2006 Honda Goldwing black on black
To: me
Hello Marco
Thanks for writing. I think i worked something out. I spoke with some colleages in the Navy here and there is a International shipping company here that can handle the shipping and customs clearance. They handle most of the shipping done by navy officers attached to the RMN. I have been i contact with them and i'm waiting for them to respond. i will keep you posted however you will have to be responsible for the shipping cost ok?
So tell me are you serious about buying it or should i consider the other offer. I hope to hear from you soon.
Have a good day
Martin
4th Mail
Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 07:06:12 -0700
From: [email [email protected]][email protected][/email]
Subject: RE: 2006 Honda Goldwing black on black
To: me
hey Marco
Send me your number lets talk on phone
Cheers
Martin
5th Mail
Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 06:26:07 -0700
From: [email [email protected]][email protected][/email]
Subject: RE: 2006 Honda Goldwing black on black
To: me
Hello Marco
After getting your mail i tried to call you but your phone was off. Basicly you need to pay for the shipping first then deposit of the total cost of the bike. I have the standard two original keys supplied with bike but ofcos you can make more duplicates if you need.
As regards the custom papers, Its a bit late here now but tomorrow morning i'ld go to my lawyers office and make a bill of sale transfering the ownership of the bike to you. Its gonna cost me about 89£ but never mind i'll sort that out.
The only other thing you need to know in the cabin of the bike (it can open with any of the keys) there is the honda bag where i've put all the documents regarding the bike, i.e the manual, the warrantee certificate, the emission certificate, the purchase invoice etc. You can see from the pictures i sent earlier.
I'll try to call you later on so we can discuss better.
Thanks
Martin
6th mail
Before this mail I already knew that he is scammer and you can see his mood changed drastically
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 04:50:16 -0700
From: [email [email protected]][email protected][/email]
Subject: RE: 2006 Honda Goldwing black on black
To: me
Hey Marco
Now i understand why you didn't answer my phone call. Anyways it a pity spent most of the day making calls and driving around trying to put this together. Forget about your lawyer bla bla from your mail i can understand that you just wanna see the bike before you pay for it. Thats absolutely fine and if you remember I insisted you come over to see it and you said you where fine with the pictures you saw. Please call the supervisor of the warehouse and fix an appointment to see the bike in kuantan. +60169285364. reference no. JM20709V. If i do decide to bring in the bike to thai myself, I'm not obligated to sell to you. I must say am kinda disappointed cos i had stopped replying queries for my bike but will work on them now that i've gotten your mail. If you wanna reach me call me +447035926541
Thanks anyways
Martin
Also from that UK number NO one answer.
That was last time I heard from him.
This is the mail my friend sent him and then you see his reply
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 06:16:32 -0400
Subject: (no subject)
To: [email [email protected]][email protected][/email]
Hi Martin,
Marco has informed that he is interested in buying a motorbike from you that is currently in Malaysia. He also told me that you personally are located in Birmingham. As I'm sure you understand, Marco is being very cautious about sending any money to you through a wire transfer. I have suggested that I could meet up with you in Birmingham sometime early next week and give you the money personally as I live not far away in Newcastle where I am based in the Royal Navy.
If this is an acceptable arrangement please reply to this email as soon as possible also copying Marco and we can set up a meeting. I look forward to meeting a fellow Royal Naval officer although I cannot find your name in the Navy List?
And Reply
Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 05:55:29 -0400
Subject: Re: (no subject)
To:
Just had this from Martin:
Hey Bob
How you doing had to edit. Am on hoiliday in Cyprus for a week (got here lastnight) then back to malaysia......I told marco about it. Anyways i found a lady in malaysia who wants to buy it for her husband and she's gonna see the bike today so give me until Monday i'll email you if she has taken it or not. Then we can proceed. Thanks anyways mate
Martin
All mails are real and NOTHING has been edited.
This is actuall what happen and i can say money never left from my hand and i did not loose anything, but here is FULL and LONG story and "REAL"(used names and email address) non edited Story
AGAIN, this is very long, sorry about that but i want to share this so no one will loose money for this guys.
SO there was add in Baht & Sold months ago about Black Goldwing in BKK price tag 300.000thb,, WOW i said and with out hesitation I replied to that and after one day I got mail back what has been sent to many other addresses as well, Stating that he has got over whelming amount of replies(no wonder there as bike cost in TH abt 900.000thb)
So I replied to him that I would be interested still, and then all start to go wrong and he got my attention.
So NEXT mail from him was nice pictures of the bike and all paperwork’s and invoices are included, BUT bike is on Kuantan, Malaysia.
Then he asked my phone number what I gave to him (mobile) and he called to me and we talk about 30minutes on the phone.
He said that if I like to go in Kuantan and have a look of the bike im more than welcome, bike is stored in British Royal Navy ware house and he even gave phone number and storage number of the bike, so if I wanted to see it I need to call and make appointment and they will show it to me as he is currently in UK for arranging his new army post.
Then I said that I have no connection to get that bike to Thailand legally and so cant get more future than this, he said that he will check something out from his colleagues in Malaysia and he will come back to me later.
Next day, he called again and he said that his “colleagues” can shipped that bike with Royal Navy supply boat to Thailand with diplomatic immunity and so for no need to pay taxes and papers are legal, but I need to pay that transportation in advance what is amount of 5000Ringget (50.000THB) and he would not accept credit card or pay pal, only payment is by using Western Union money transfer I told him that I need to think about it as 50K is a lot of money to give some one with out seeing the bike it self and I haven’t see any Pictures when bike it is in Malaysia, so he told me to think about it and he will call again next day as he did.
Next day his voice was bit more demanding and he was pressing down me to pay him that 50K, very soon or he will sell the bike to others, when I said that if he feels that way he can sell it to others, when he heard me to say so he came up with many excuses and then it HAPPEN, my Security personality kicked in, I started to listen how he speak, how he select his word’s and terms he uses, those where NOT a words of English Marine Officer(what I confirmed day earlier with my Security Colleague, who actually worked in Royal navy and Queens private yacht as security personnel)
So he uses what I could identified from the voice as Afrikaans dialect and become more rude and hostile towards to me when im backing off from the deal, BUT I had a last ACE in my back pocked, as mentioned earlier My Colleague worked in Royal navy, so we decided that he would like to set up the meeting with this guy face to face in UK, so I let this “dealer” know that my friend will be contacting him and so he did, sent him mail and setting up the meeting, outcome was as expected He was suddenly n his holiday in Cyprys and will not come back to UK any time soon, and in his mail to me he claims to got a NAVY position in UK already, and so meeting never happen and he haven’t been in touch with me since.
Here is his NAME and emails what he sent to me and you can see his email addy as well, so if any one comes across this person again, know that he is scam artist.
His 1st email
Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 11:50:46 -0700
From: [email [email protected]][email protected][/email]
Subject: 2006 Honda Goldwing black on black
To: [email [email protected]][email protected][/email]
Hello Guys
I got such a massive reply for my bike advert that I get a feeling am offering is a bit too cheap so i'm gonna sell to the highest bidder.
ABOUT MY BIKE-----I bought my bike cash brand new in Malaysia late last year....so for all of you who ask for green book you know the answer because my bike is in kuantan Malaysia....but since i have the invoice ithink you can get a the green book documentation done over there for between 70,000Bht-100,000Bht or better do your own research.
I'm trying to sell in Thailand and Malaysia. If you are buying for Malaysian use the price is 50,000 Malaysia Ringgits(no bargaining because its registered and insured here)
ABOUT ME------I'm british and a naval soldier assigned to The Royal Malaysian Navy for the past 10months. I've just been reassigned back to England hence why i'm selling my bike cos its too expensive to ship there. I need to sell fast because i resume my new post soon. The pictures you saw where taken on tuesday!!!
So guys if you are interested send me a mail with your offer for the bike so I could seperate the serious guys from the other guys. I'll send the serious guys more pictures of different parts of the bike.
Yours sincerely
Martin
Note:- For those of you asking for finance....the answer is NO....I bought cash and will sell cash (thats the whole idea of the low price).
2nd Mail
Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 11:05:58 -0700
From: [email [email protected]][email protected][/email]
Subject: RE: 2006 Honda Goldwing black on black
To: me
Hello Marco
Here are the pictures you requested. I hope to get a mail with your offer very fast because i need to make a decision and conclude the deal asap. see the attachment.
Waiting to read from you
Martin
3rd Mail
Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 03:56:22 -0700
From: [email [email protected]][email protected][/email]
Subject: RE: 2006 Honda Goldwing black on black
To: me
Hello Marco
Thanks for writing. I think i worked something out. I spoke with some colleages in the Navy here and there is a International shipping company here that can handle the shipping and customs clearance. They handle most of the shipping done by navy officers attached to the RMN. I have been i contact with them and i'm waiting for them to respond. i will keep you posted however you will have to be responsible for the shipping cost ok?
So tell me are you serious about buying it or should i consider the other offer. I hope to hear from you soon.
Have a good day
Martin
4th Mail
Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 07:06:12 -0700
From: [email [email protected]][email protected][/email]
Subject: RE: 2006 Honda Goldwing black on black
To: me
hey Marco
Send me your number lets talk on phone
Cheers
Martin
5th Mail
Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 06:26:07 -0700
From: [email [email protected]][email protected][/email]
Subject: RE: 2006 Honda Goldwing black on black
To: me
Hello Marco
After getting your mail i tried to call you but your phone was off. Basicly you need to pay for the shipping first then deposit of the total cost of the bike. I have the standard two original keys supplied with bike but ofcos you can make more duplicates if you need.
As regards the custom papers, Its a bit late here now but tomorrow morning i'ld go to my lawyers office and make a bill of sale transfering the ownership of the bike to you. Its gonna cost me about 89£ but never mind i'll sort that out.
The only other thing you need to know in the cabin of the bike (it can open with any of the keys) there is the honda bag where i've put all the documents regarding the bike, i.e the manual, the warrantee certificate, the emission certificate, the purchase invoice etc. You can see from the pictures i sent earlier.
I'll try to call you later on so we can discuss better.
Thanks
Martin
6th mail
Before this mail I already knew that he is scammer and you can see his mood changed drastically
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 04:50:16 -0700
From: [email [email protected]][email protected][/email]
Subject: RE: 2006 Honda Goldwing black on black
To: me
Hey Marco
Now i understand why you didn't answer my phone call. Anyways it a pity spent most of the day making calls and driving around trying to put this together. Forget about your lawyer bla bla from your mail i can understand that you just wanna see the bike before you pay for it. Thats absolutely fine and if you remember I insisted you come over to see it and you said you where fine with the pictures you saw. Please call the supervisor of the warehouse and fix an appointment to see the bike in kuantan. +60169285364. reference no. JM20709V. If i do decide to bring in the bike to thai myself, I'm not obligated to sell to you. I must say am kinda disappointed cos i had stopped replying queries for my bike but will work on them now that i've gotten your mail. If you wanna reach me call me +447035926541
Thanks anyways
Martin
Also from that UK number NO one answer.
That was last time I heard from him.
This is the mail my friend sent him and then you see his reply
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 06:16:32 -0400
Subject: (no subject)
To: [email [email protected]][email protected][/email]
Hi Martin,
Marco has informed that he is interested in buying a motorbike from you that is currently in Malaysia. He also told me that you personally are located in Birmingham. As I'm sure you understand, Marco is being very cautious about sending any money to you through a wire transfer. I have suggested that I could meet up with you in Birmingham sometime early next week and give you the money personally as I live not far away in Newcastle where I am based in the Royal Navy.
If this is an acceptable arrangement please reply to this email as soon as possible also copying Marco and we can set up a meeting. I look forward to meeting a fellow Royal Naval officer although I cannot find your name in the Navy List?
And Reply
Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 05:55:29 -0400
Subject: Re: (no subject)
To:
Just had this from Martin:
Hey Bob
How you doing had to edit. Am on hoiliday in Cyprus for a week (got here lastnight) then back to malaysia......I told marco about it. Anyways i found a lady in malaysia who wants to buy it for her husband and she's gonna see the bike today so give me until Monday i'll email you if she has taken it or not. Then we can proceed. Thanks anyways mate
Martin
All mails are real and NOTHING has been edited.
