API Tech: EFI Advance 2014.

CBR250 · Jun 23, 2014

I have a 2011 CBR250. Stock except for 3 extra holes drilled in the end of the muffler.

API Tech have an ECM for the CBR250, their price, a shocking 12,000b.

http://www.apitechonline.com/shop/index.php?route=product/category&path=118_35_131

They also have a separate 'EFI Advance 2014'. Not linked to any specific bike. 3,500b.

http://www.apitechonline.com/shop/index.php?route=product/category&path=118_117_124

Anybody have any knowledge of such a tool, or the Thai skills to read it?

คุณสมบัติ
1. สามารถปรับแต่งค่าองศาจุดระเบิดได้แบบอิสระ 0°- 50° (Ignition degree)
2. สามารถปรับแต่งปริมาณการฉีดของน้ำมันเพิ่มจากของเดิมได้ 100 % (Increase Fuel) โดยเลือกปรับได้ 2 แบบ
2.1 ปรับเพิ่มปริมาณการฉีดน้ำมันจาก VOLUME หน้ากล่องได้ 50 % และลดปริมาณการฉีดน้ำมันได้ 25%
2.2 ปรับเพิ่มปริมาณการฉีดน้ำมันจาก PROGRAM หน้ากล่องได้ 50 % และลดปริมาณการฉีดน้ำมันได้ 25%
3. สามารถยืดการตัดรอบของเครื่องยนต์เป็น 13,000 รอบ (Hold RPM)
4. ติดตั้งได้ง่าย โดยไม่ต้องตัดต่อสาย

Through Google Translate:
1. Could customize the ignition is independently 0 ° - 50 ° (Ignition degree).
2. Could tune the amount of fuel injected from the same 100% (Increase Fuel) by choosing an adjustable 2.
2.1 to increase the fuel injection VOLUME box of 50% and a 25% reduction in fuel injection.
Increase the amount of fuel injected 2.2 PROGRAM box 50% and 25% reduction of fuel injection.
3. Could stretch to cut the engine is 13,000 rpm (Hold RPM).
4. Install easily Without cutting the cable

The CBR250 runs pretty lean, and I wouldn't mind a controller to get more fuel going in there, if I knew exactly what is was.

Anybody knowledgeable?

Thanks.

CBR250 · Jun 23, 2014

btw these are vids going through the info about them in Thai. Seems you program in 3 different maps, and can choose each one then with the buttons on the unit.

CBR250 · Jun 23, 2014

Some snapshots, in case they mean anything to anybody.

Joelthailand · Jun 24, 2014

My experience of APi is do not use their products unless you live in Bangkok!! Let them install the box & let their technicians tune your bike & all will be good!! Go for it.

If you want a user friendly tuner-box controller with English instructions & that is known worldwide then try an EJK fuel controller.
http://www.ejkthailand.com/ I think Natty Rider imports them now, so you don't have to do the ebay & paypal thing.

CBR250 · Jun 24, 2014

Thanks for the info.

I do indeed live in BKK. I'll check out the EJK option, thanks.

CBR250 · Jun 26, 2014

I received this info on another forum:

Black version 2014

A - advanced or retard igntion, max 8 degrees
B - low rpm fuel +-30% fuel (2000rpm) up
C - mid rpm fuel +-30% fuel (5000rpm) up
D - high rpm fuel +-30% fuel (8000rpm) up
E - acceleration +-30% fuel, fuel added during acceleration or throttle is pulled

Old version 2013

A - advanced or retard igntion, max 8 degrees
B - main jet up to 50%, affects low/mid/top rpm fuel including idle
C - low rpm fuel +-30% fuel (2000rpm) up
D - mid rpm fuel +-30% fuel (5000rpm) up
E - high rpm fuel +-30% fuel (8000rpm) up

on my bike best setting is max 5% on fuel and advanced igntion 2oclock(around 2-3degrees) @97octane

So it seems can plug it into the bike, select 5% increase in fuel for the low, mid and high RPMs, then also a change of perhaps 2 degrees in advanced ignition, and you'd feel a difference?

Thanks.

s2112 · Sep 8, 2014

Joelthailand;300215 wrote: My experience of APi is do not use their products unless you live in Bangkok!! Let them install the box & let their technicians tune your bike & all will be good!! Go for it.

If you want a user friendly tuner-box controller with English instructions & that is known worldwide then try an EJK fuel controller.
http://www.ejkthailand.com/ I think Natty Rider imports them now, so you don't have to do the ebay & paypal thing.

Can you confirm that the adress shown on their web page is correct?

s2112 · Sep 8, 2014

The adress for API tech not EJK thailand

KZ25 · Mar 21, 2015

Update: After over a year and appr. 15,000 km running the stock muffler with a core and FMF Racing packing the sound was getting louder and changed, not extremely so, but I could tell that it's time to look into it. It's still quieter than most aftermarket mufflers I've heard.
I decided to have the muffler cut open to see how much packing blew out but the shop that did it before is now telling me they are too busy, so I have to run around a bit. The local Honda shop doesn't even have a spark plug in stock!
Out of curiosity I pulled the plug to check the color and was surprised to see that the electrode was almost gone, only a thin spike pointed up in the center, the outsides were burned off. The bike was running fine, no power loss or anything that would have indicated a problem.
I hope (very much so!) that most of the plug burned off when the muffler started to lose some packing during the last few hundred km.
Now I wonder if I damaged the valves or the piston - is there any way to check that without pulling the head off?
I changed the air filter at 12,000 km and left the screen on since it didn't make much of a difference, and I ride the bike mostly in the medium revs on the road, not close to redline and never hit the rev limiter, so I hoped the ECU would take care of the rather minor change.
I made several trips to Phuket but didn't want to mess with it then, but now I know I should have gotten the EJK!