I've ridden over 50k on ADV350 in Thailand, welcome to ask any questions.
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That's interesting.
What are the best modifications or changes have you made to the bike for your travels?
Tyres?
Spotlights?
Luggage?
Protection?
I like the bike too, and if I were to downgrade from a V-Strom now, I would go for that bike, or perhaps a Zontes?
What are the best modifications or changes have you made to the bike for your travels?
Tyres?
Spotlights?
Luggage?
Protection?
I like the bike too, and if I were to downgrade from a V-Strom now, I would go for that bike, or perhaps a Zontes?
I'll come back tomorrow and answer each of your questions with photos. It's getting a bit dark to take photos to illustrate today.
Tyres
I haven't found the need to switch from the excellent sticky stock tubeless Metzler Karoo Street. They suit my riding style and terrain in the mountains and on faster roads.
Costs about ฿5000 balanced and fitted for a pair front/rear.
These tyres have excellent alround grip in wet and dry conditions, allowing for serious scratching with a good safety margine. I do not pretend this is an off road tyre although I do venture onto single track clay and loose fine gravel.
From the attached photo you will see what appears to be a single large central tread block. When the tyre is new this is actual two tread blocks (but wears down to one).
The rear tyre has 3.5mm wear left before the minimum wear indicator is reached. Front tyre has 2mm remaining before the minimum wear indicator. The pair have covered about 12,000km. No odd tyre cupping wear to report.
In the dry season I'd have no problem running the tyre to about 17,000km. However, in the wet season I'm about ready to change now.
This is because I can feel the tyre starting to struggle to shed water. Also, now a bit squirrelley on bitumen imperfections, which doesn't occur with a less worn tyre (before it wears to a big single central tread block).
(Rear tyre)
(Front tyre)
I like to treat tyres as good insurance, replacing early (other than dry season) to help ensure optimum contact patch adhesion for staying upright.
I've had one oooh moment fanging it on Paradise Road in a 90km/hr bend when the rear tyre let go briefly. But traction was regained by a quick body shift . One other time was a low speed sharp inclined corner with a scattering of dry bamboo leaves. The rear tyre slipped out but as soon as it was off the leaf litter it bit in hard to the bitumin surface.
These tyres give me confidence that only my stupidity will let me down.
I haven't found the need to switch from the excellent sticky stock tubeless Metzler Karoo Street. They suit my riding style and terrain in the mountains and on faster roads.
Costs about ฿5000 balanced and fitted for a pair front/rear.
These tyres have excellent alround grip in wet and dry conditions, allowing for serious scratching with a good safety margine. I do not pretend this is an off road tyre although I do venture onto single track clay and loose fine gravel.
From the attached photo you will see what appears to be a single large central tread block. When the tyre is new this is actual two tread blocks (but wears down to one).
The rear tyre has 3.5mm wear left before the minimum wear indicator is reached. Front tyre has 2mm remaining before the minimum wear indicator. The pair have covered about 12,000km. No odd tyre cupping wear to report.
In the dry season I'd have no problem running the tyre to about 17,000km. However, in the wet season I'm about ready to change now.
This is because I can feel the tyre starting to struggle to shed water. Also, now a bit squirrelley on bitumen imperfections, which doesn't occur with a less worn tyre (before it wears to a big single central tread block).
(Rear tyre)
(Front tyre)
I like to treat tyres as good insurance, replacing early (other than dry season) to help ensure optimum contact patch adhesion for staying upright.
I've had one oooh moment fanging it on Paradise Road in a 90km/hr bend when the rear tyre let go briefly. But traction was regained by a quick body shift . One other time was a low speed sharp inclined corner with a scattering of dry bamboo leaves. The rear tyre slipped out but as soon as it was off the leaf litter it bit in hard to the bitumin surface.
These tyres give me confidence that only my stupidity will let me down.
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Spotlights
I am using Lobo L11 for night riding and Lobo L7 for daytime running lights.
The Lobo comes with a wiring harness that includes a rotary dial to adjust the power level. High-low switching is independent of the ADV350 headlight switch, which is a bit of a pain, but I've got use to it now.
Night riding in the mountains has become so much fun that I often make nightly mountain commutes between Thoed Thai and Maesai just for the fun of it.
I purchase an extra yellow lenses cover for the Lobo L11 as they didn't come with the yellow lenses cover that the L7 did.
The Lobo were expensive, but I have no regrets purchasing them.
They have significantly extended my riding pleasure during both day and night.
Also, other vehicles do move out of the way for me, or don't pull out so often into my path, with the lights on.
Purchased from Lazada.
I am using Lobo L11 for night riding and Lobo L7 for daytime running lights.
The Lobo comes with a wiring harness that includes a rotary dial to adjust the power level. High-low switching is independent of the ADV350 headlight switch, which is a bit of a pain, but I've got use to it now.
Night riding in the mountains has become so much fun that I often make nightly mountain commutes between Thoed Thai and Maesai just for the fun of it.
I purchase an extra yellow lenses cover for the Lobo L11 as they didn't come with the yellow lenses cover that the L7 did.
The Lobo were expensive, but I have no regrets purchasing them.
They have significantly extended my riding pleasure during both day and night.
Also, other vehicles do move out of the way for me, or don't pull out so often into my path, with the lights on.
Purchased from Lazada.
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Luggage
Im using a generic top box only just big enough to fit a full faced helmet.
The mounting rack is Revolution (brand) CNC aluminium. I think the rack is a crazy overweight over engineered lump of aluminium.
With hindsight I'd have preferred a lighter rack option.
In the dry season there is enough cavernous space under the seat to store light rainproof jacket, shoes, clothes and toiletries to tour for weeks (without heavier rain season gear).
Touring in the rainy season I use an additional (small size) Lobo waterproof bag, which comes supplied with excellent elastic straps and buckles.
Rack and topbox purchased locally. Lobo bag purchased from Lazada.
The luggage volume works perfectly well for me with this combination.
Im using a generic top box only just big enough to fit a full faced helmet.
The mounting rack is Revolution (brand) CNC aluminium. I think the rack is a crazy overweight over engineered lump of aluminium.
With hindsight I'd have preferred a lighter rack option.
In the dry season there is enough cavernous space under the seat to store light rainproof jacket, shoes, clothes and toiletries to tour for weeks (without heavier rain season gear).
Touring in the rainy season I use an additional (small size) Lobo waterproof bag, which comes supplied with excellent elastic straps and buckles.
Rack and topbox purchased locally. Lobo bag purchased from Lazada.
The luggage volume works perfectly well for me with this combination.
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Protection
I am very happy with the light weight (3kg) quality engineered Hepco and Becker crash bars.
I originally purchased Thai made bars from a manufacturer recommended to me. Unfortunately the weight was over 9kg. The welding and paint finishing quality poor. The metal form-bending meant the whole bike was stressed into a new shape in order to fit. These bars went straight to the scrap metal recycler.
The Hepco and Becker bars are by no means 'crash protection' because the ADV350 has pathetic mounting points. H&B acknowledge this themselves, calling the bars styling bars. However, they are good enough to mount the Lobo lights securely.
The bars have two mounting points on either side. There is a little bit of flex movement when hiting potholes at the front of the bar. This causes the Lobo brackets to occasionally make contact with the ADV350 fairing. I have solved this by placing silicone adhesive pads on the contact points. The flexing hasn't loosened or broken any fixing points.
I really like the scale (tubing diameter) size of the H&B bars. They don't look like construction scaffolding strapped to the bike.
They were expensive but worth the styling and quality. Purchased from the Thai H&B importer (special order).
I am very happy with the light weight (3kg) quality engineered Hepco and Becker crash bars.
I originally purchased Thai made bars from a manufacturer recommended to me. Unfortunately the weight was over 9kg. The welding and paint finishing quality poor. The metal form-bending meant the whole bike was stressed into a new shape in order to fit. These bars went straight to the scrap metal recycler.
The Hepco and Becker bars are by no means 'crash protection' because the ADV350 has pathetic mounting points. H&B acknowledge this themselves, calling the bars styling bars. However, they are good enough to mount the Lobo lights securely.
The bars have two mounting points on either side. There is a little bit of flex movement when hiting potholes at the front of the bar. This causes the Lobo brackets to occasionally make contact with the ADV350 fairing. I have solved this by placing silicone adhesive pads on the contact points. The flexing hasn't loosened or broken any fixing points.
I really like the scale (tubing diameter) size of the H&B bars. They don't look like construction scaffolding strapped to the bike.
They were expensive but worth the styling and quality. Purchased from the Thai H&B importer (special order).
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Other Modifications
YSS front fork internals upgrade.... definitely a big improvement on the ADV350 2024 model fork which I found to be weak for my 90kg weight (in riding gear)
The YSS springs feel as though they are going a little soft after only about 15,000km. This is very unfortunate and its not possible to buy YSS springs for this bike to suit rider weight and riding style preference.
I'm seriously thinking about importing and upgrading to Andreani Misano Evo Fork Cartridges complete with correct springs to match myvweight and riding style.
Ohlins rear shocks are good, but with hindsight I'd stick with the Profender and save paying the extra cost on import and brand name tax. I had Profender on my previous ADV350 (which was an insurance right-off in the Maesai floods). They performed very well at a considerably less cost.
I've recently purchase small aftermarket fairing wings (Lazada) to give more wet weather protection to my legs. They work well. Honda OEM accessory version doesn't seem available in Thailand yet.
I'm using a BMC air filter and I've removed some restricting rubber snorkel sleeve inside the airbox to try and improve airflow. Doing this makes the air intake a little noisier.
I'm using a Malossi Maxifly system clutch and bell which is an improvement over the stock clutch and bell (not that the stock is at all bad). This is matched with a Malossi Multivar 2000 variator set which gives impressive performance boost on twisty mountain roads.
The Malossi upgrade is not entirely necessary in my opinion and I've done over 25,000 km on stock with great fun to be had. But the Malossi is icing on the cake and I like the extra performance very very much.
I purchased Malossi from the Thai importer via Lazada and went on to purchase further Malossi kits and spares direct from Malossi in Europe.
Exhaust is an Arrow Indy Race slip-on which saves about 6kg in weight and sounds great without being obnoxiously loud. Even gives a nice crackle on deceleration as the exhaust gas is purged. Spark plug colour is fine. No concerns about fuel mixture being adversely changed. Purchased from the Thailand Arrow importer.
For two finger stopping power I changed out the stock pads for EBC Sintered HH Series pads (part #SFA196HH and part #SFA415HH). Purchased from Lazada.
These are great pads giving excellent modulation/ no fade even when running very hot dancing it in the mountains. I did try Brembo pads but didn't get on with them at all.
Last but not least, I fitted a really effective Givi screen dropped to the lowest height setting in the mountains and off road so as to reduce viewing obstruction peering over/through a screen....and at the second from highest setting to enable sitting very comfortably and quietly when touring open roads. Purchased from Givi importer via Lazada. It was expensive but well worth it indeed. I'd consider a direct import myself if I did it again, as they are sold very cheaply in Europe.
(Lowest position setting)
Second from highest position. I'm about 175cm and in this position the wind goes over tge top of my (Arai Quantic) helmet.
YSS front fork internals upgrade.... definitely a big improvement on the ADV350 2024 model fork which I found to be weak for my 90kg weight (in riding gear)
The YSS springs feel as though they are going a little soft after only about 15,000km. This is very unfortunate and its not possible to buy YSS springs for this bike to suit rider weight and riding style preference.
I'm seriously thinking about importing and upgrading to Andreani Misano Evo Fork Cartridges complete with correct springs to match myvweight and riding style.
Ohlins rear shocks are good, but with hindsight I'd stick with the Profender and save paying the extra cost on import and brand name tax. I had Profender on my previous ADV350 (which was an insurance right-off in the Maesai floods). They performed very well at a considerably less cost.
I've recently purchase small aftermarket fairing wings (Lazada) to give more wet weather protection to my legs. They work well. Honda OEM accessory version doesn't seem available in Thailand yet.
I'm using a BMC air filter and I've removed some restricting rubber snorkel sleeve inside the airbox to try and improve airflow. Doing this makes the air intake a little noisier.
I'm using a Malossi Maxifly system clutch and bell which is an improvement over the stock clutch and bell (not that the stock is at all bad). This is matched with a Malossi Multivar 2000 variator set which gives impressive performance boost on twisty mountain roads.
The Malossi upgrade is not entirely necessary in my opinion and I've done over 25,000 km on stock with great fun to be had. But the Malossi is icing on the cake and I like the extra performance very very much.
I purchased Malossi from the Thai importer via Lazada and went on to purchase further Malossi kits and spares direct from Malossi in Europe.
Exhaust is an Arrow Indy Race slip-on which saves about 6kg in weight and sounds great without being obnoxiously loud. Even gives a nice crackle on deceleration as the exhaust gas is purged. Spark plug colour is fine. No concerns about fuel mixture being adversely changed. Purchased from the Thailand Arrow importer.
For two finger stopping power I changed out the stock pads for EBC Sintered HH Series pads (part #SFA196HH and part #SFA415HH). Purchased from Lazada.
These are great pads giving excellent modulation/ no fade even when running very hot dancing it in the mountains. I did try Brembo pads but didn't get on with them at all.
Last but not least, I fitted a really effective Givi screen dropped to the lowest height setting in the mountains and off road so as to reduce viewing obstruction peering over/through a screen....and at the second from highest setting to enable sitting very comfortably and quietly when touring open roads. Purchased from Givi importer via Lazada. It was expensive but well worth it indeed. I'd consider a direct import myself if I did it again, as they are sold very cheaply in Europe.
(Lowest position setting)
Second from highest position. I'm about 175cm and in this position the wind goes over tge top of my (Arai Quantic) helmet.
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I recommend all these upgrades except for a further review of rack options.
In this setup the ADV350 does a minimum of 27km/litre fanging it very hard in the mountains and average 38km/litre touring on the open road.
I seem to recall I was getting up to an amazing 44km/litre open road touring on my stock ADV350.
The ADV350 never ceases to amaze me whether I'm using it as a shopping trolley carrying 60 litres of bottled water back from Makro, touring or riding harder. It makes me grin from ear to ear.
Super cheap to maintain in stock form.
If you want any more specific details or have any general questions, let me know?
In this setup the ADV350 does a minimum of 27km/litre fanging it very hard in the mountains and average 38km/litre touring on the open road.
I seem to recall I was getting up to an amazing 44km/litre open road touring on my stock ADV350.
The ADV350 never ceases to amaze me whether I'm using it as a shopping trolley carrying 60 litres of bottled water back from Makro, touring or riding harder. It makes me grin from ear to ear.
Super cheap to maintain in stock form.
If you want any more specific details or have any general questions, let me know?
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Great summary of owning your ADV 350 
I also have an ADV 350 with alot of similar modifications as you, I have SRC Crashbars and are happy with their quality, I have had their products on other/previous bikes and never had an issue. I did have SSS rear rack on my X-Max but found the paint quality poor, I was thinking of getting them powder coated but replaced with SRC instead
One thing I have found is when the low fuel light flashes I have 1 litre of fuel left, tested a few times with the same result, thats about 30km to empty, my X-Max 300 goes over double that and has a bigger fuel tank @ 13 L compared to the ADV 350 @ 11.7, so I now refuel when getting down to 1 or 2 bars of fuel.
I also have an ADV 350 with alot of similar modifications as you, I have SRC Crashbars and are happy with their quality, I have had their products on other/previous bikes and never had an issue. I did have SSS rear rack on my X-Max but found the paint quality poor, I was thinking of getting them powder coated but replaced with SRC instead
One thing I have found is when the low fuel light flashes I have 1 litre of fuel left, tested a few times with the same result, thats about 30km to empty, my X-Max 300 goes over double that and has a bigger fuel tank @ 13 L compared to the ADV 350 @ 11.7, so I now refuel when getting down to 1 or 2 bars of fuel.
...good to know, thanks
The Thai crash bars I scrapped weren't either of the two manufacturers you mentioned.
Have you had any clutch judder problems from the stock clutck/bell?
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Nice bike you have there ADV and the modifications you have done on it are also worth for considering in doing them on my Xmax, I had the full MALOSSI set on my former TMAX and I was impressed on the acceleration improvement it gave, only the petrol consumption went up too as the engine always revved at a higher level. EBC sintered HH pads agree. Is your ARROW exhaust also officially approved to be fitted in TH as the YOSHIMURAS are ?
No problem with clutch issues yet @ 6500km, ive just returned to Thailand after a 5000km tour through China and the bike was faultless
Have had that problem with a PCX 150 years ago and a ceramic clutch sorted that out.
I bought EBC brake pads for my NC750X and they were useless, worse than stock..................................ended up putting Brembo pads in and they were awesome, I also have Brembo in my X-Max and again awesome
If you don’t mind me asking, how much did you pay for the original arrow slip on, and do you have the site, I may have a look for my 500x
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I think it cost in the region of THB23,500
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I'll check the paperwork when I return from riding later today. I seem to recall EU compliance certificate included in box. Not sure about Thai status.
Thanks ADV, Thai status means if approved by the official government agency the exhaust should have a plate like this riveted to it with Thai approval number and it could then be also registered in the green book at the DLT. So b.i.b. cannot issue fine.
To my knowledge YOSHIMURA exhausts are certified but i have yet to see/know any other muffler to be approved, that's why i ask.
Me personally would like to put a genuine Akrapovic or Remus on my bikes but you hardly get originals here and copies i won't waste any cash on them.
To my knowledge YOSHIMURA exhausts are certified but i have yet to see/know any other muffler to be approved, that's why i ask.
Me personally would like to put a genuine Akrapovic or Remus on my bikes but you hardly get originals here and copies i won't waste any cash on them.
No Thai approval markings included, only EU providing the catalyst system is used in the system.
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Purchase genuine Akrapovic from the importer, TP Motorsport...but ask them about the Thai approval plating if that concerns you.
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I don't really subscribe to your concerns. What works for you works for you.
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1/ I too have Ohlins on the rear suspension, I was surprised to find out that Ohins dont supply front suspension for the ADV, YSS might be an option, I did bottom the front end out a few times in Laos a few months ago.
2/ I like the look of those small front skirts/Wings, do they restrict too much air flow to your legs on hot days ?
3/ I found the stock windscreen useless, maybe I am too tall, ive had Givi screens before but in this case I couldnt justify 7900 baht for a windscreen, when I can buy a Speedy brand for around 1000 baht, and they have various sizes and colours, I chose 24" in clear.............................its great and works perfectly, I usually have it set in the top spot or 1 click down, very happy with my choice.
1. Yes great shame Ohlins rear cannot be matched to the rear to (ohlins) front cartridge and spring set
2. I only installed the wing triangle a week ago. They have an open slot which allows a little air around the knees and the main wing deflects very well to protect from water spray. I can feel the air flow with my hand curving back in behind me to hit the passenger foot pegs.
Here's a video of the wings on YT
Mine are a Chinese polycarbonate copy....the folded section that the 3M glue sticks to is not quite folded at the correct angle, but I can live with that. I'll take some better photos for you. I'm on a ride now. I'm really liking this upgrade so far!
3. Givi screens...yes insane price...ouch. It hurt. But I couldn't find any polycarbonate locally or in China, only acrylic.
If I'd know about the Puig option from TP I'd have gone with that at the time, probably....or import the Givi myself.
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Funny enough I watched that exact video lastweek and it gives a positive review, although I recall reading in the comments "One of the reasons I chose the Adv350 over the Forsa is the greater airflow.Believe me in Thailand the extra cooling airflow on one's nads is much appreciated."
....Thailand ambient temperature airflow at 100km/hr on the nads
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