A forum post and review comments - http://i-expresione.blogspot.com/2009/07/review-for-klx150-indonesia.html
But just check the pics and you can see some differences for yourself.
2012 Honda CRF250L
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But just check the pics and you can see some differences for yourself.
The KLX 150 is carb'd. I really wasn't paying much attention to the differences between the off-road 140 and the road legal 150, but I noticed the 150 has a steel swingarm, while the 140's is aluminum. Beyond that I really can't recall what the other differences were. Has anyone done a search for the 150 specs?
Shame for those of us who are eagerly awaiting news of the CRF 250L who see updates to the thread only to find it has somehow turned into a conversation about the Kawasaki 140/150.....
Oh well, I guess we are all bored with waiting for it's release....
Oh, and the fact I haven't added anything of value isn't lost on me either!
Oh well, I guess we are all bored with waiting for it's release....
Oh, and the fact I haven't added anything of value isn't lost on me either!
I have to agree with You Bung! Given that after the opening of the Honda Big Wing I am surprised None of the Guys who went have Told us anything about the CRF250L??? Seems a bit strange, all secret squirrel stuff???
That may be because it will not be sold by the Big Bike Wing, but by the smaller bike division and the large number of dealers they already have. Which raises the question for the big bikes. Apart from BKK, where will they be sold and serviced?
APe Honda are idiots but I don't think that's the holdup this time - they probably either don't know when the bike's going to be ready, or they were ordered not to tell by Honda.
This is a brand new bike made for the first time in Thailand. Maybe the date when it's going to be ready can't be predicted that accurately?! They thought they'd release it in March but obviously something went wrong and it's been delayed. Probably didn't pass quality checks for one reason or another. That's the way product development works. It's not like Honda's Thai factories have a wealth of experience building big bikes.
As for the price - if you take the CBR250R USA price and add 7% VAT, you end up with 135k baht... big bikes that are cheaper here than in the USA are rare... there's only one, really. All the others cost more in Thailand.
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They thought they'd release it in March but obviously something went wrong and it's been delayed. Probably didn't pass quality checks for one reason or another.
The welding of the frames i recokon or to many of there workers have put there backs out trying to move the things ... you would think they are building a space craft not a bloody motorbike.
They thought they'd release it in March but obviously something went wrong and it's been delayed. Probably didn't pass quality checks for one reason or another.
The welding of the frames i recokon or to many of there workers have put there backs out trying to move the things ... you would think they are building a space craft not a bloody motorbike.
I don't mind a discussion about other comparable bikes when there are no news on the CRF. As I mentioned above the official release is in middle of May in Japan.
Talking about the KLX 150, exactly which parts are different besides the swing arm and the handle bar? Cheaper parts may explain the lower price but if you upgrade you may end up paying around 85,000 baht - for an air-cooled 150 with small wheels.
Too bad Honda isn't interested in offering a full-sized CRF150L based on the CBR150R with 21/18" rims and 18hp, or even better, a supermoto version with Duke look.
I'd pay 85,000 baht for that.
They probably told things of the CRF250R on the Honda Big WHINGE
? I am not really surprised why the launch of crf250L is how it is.
Remember , when the new CBR150R & Cbr250R was launched??? I recall reading a lot of people being pissed off how APe Honda did it.....and now it isn't any different. We will eventually get the crf250L .... probably same as on the cbr150/250 launch to quite inflated prices due to "hungry" dealers , but it will hopefully settle soon enough.
Well APH way of introducing a new bike might be selling technic (a stupid one I think but that doesn't matter to them) .... they just spread a rumor and look how much requests there will be and adjust the price to their likeness.
Different as at the Kawa dealer who could just tell me when the D-Tracket & KLX 150 will be in their shop and how much they would cost.
Chang Noi
Different as at the Kawa dealer who could just tell me when the D-Tracket & KLX 150 will be in their shop and how much they would cost.
Chang Noi
Aint google a woderfull thing
If you search around the Honda sites the best info for what they will be selling here is on the Honda India site as below details show;
And guess what 'Made in LoS'
TOKYO, Japan, April 13, 2012 - Honda Motor Co., Ltd. has announced the start of sales in Japan on May 14, 2012, of a new 250-cc on/off-road model, the CRF250L, which offers an agile ride in a wide range of riding environments from urban to off road riding.
CRF250L (Extreme Red)
CRF250L (Ross White)
Under the slogan, “‘New On & Off Gear, your right buddy on the road’ to make ‘On’ (daily life) more convenient and ‘Off’ (weekends) more enjoyable,” the development team, by pursuing total balance and driving stability to the utmost, created a vehicle that enables a broad spectrum of users from beginners to experienced riders to enjoy the sheer fun of handling the machine.
The CRF250L is powered by a liquid-cooled 250-cc 4-stroke DOHC single-cylinder engine with powerful output in the low-to-mid rpm range. Low-friction technologies including an offset cylinder are also employed to realize the excellent fuel efficiency of 44.3 km/L (measured at a constant speed of 60 km/h on a level road).
A newly-designed frame makes use of the steel twin-tube structure to offer the rider a nimble ride while ensuring both agility and stability. In addition, an agile, high-performance run-through ability in a wide range of situations from urban riding to off road is realized through the adoption of an inverted suspension with a 250-mm cushion stroke for the front and the Pro-Link suspension with 240 mm of axle travel for the rear.
Styling has been refined to be sharper and more aggressive while inheriting the basic concept of Honda’s CRF motocrosser series, resulting in a design that asserts a Honda identity fitting for a new-era CRF. Customers are offered a choice of two color schemes: Extreme Red to present an aggressive image or Ross White for those who wish to impart a cool image.
Main Features of the CRF250L
Engine
The engine aims for powerful output that can be handled with equal ease on on-road and off-road. While achieving powerful torque from the low rpm range to high, the CRF250L’s engine also boasts output characteristics expressing the smooth rev-up that typifies a liquid-cooled 4-stroke DOHC engine. The Programmed Fuel Injection System (PGM-FI*), the O2 sensor, catalyzer fitted inside the muffler, and the newly applied low-friction technologies embedded in such components as the offset cylinder and the roller rocker arm all form a synergy that delivers high environmental performance along with excellent fuel efficiency of 44.3 km/L (measured at a constant speed of 60 km/h on a level road).
*
PGM-FI is a registered trademark of Honda.
Vehicle body/suspension
The newly-designed frame makes use of a steel twin-tube design to offer a nimble ride while ensuring both agility and stability, and the oval cross-sectional shape of the main pipe helps boost rigidity while enabling a slim vehicle body. The inverted front suspension employs a Separate Function Front Fork having an inner tube diameter of 43 mm and a cushion stroke of 250 mm in a design that secures both light weight and high rigidity to deliver excellent operability and high driving stability. The aluminum monoblock cast swing arm yields high strength and proper rigidity balance and is paired with a Pro-Link rear suspension having 240 mm of axle travel providing the rider with impressive agility and high road-holding capability from urban riding to off road.
Styling
Styling has been refined into a sharper and more aggressive tone while inheriting the concept of “centralized mass with triangular proportions,” a key feature and basic principle of Honda’s CRF motocrosser series. This design asserts a Honda identity befitting the CRF for a new era. A surface encompassing tank shrouds, side covers, and a rear fender has been made flush to project an even sharper image. Meanwhile, the muffler cover and tool box on the left side add accent to the design by forming a shape reminiscent of a side racing number plate. The body comes in one of two colors, Extreme Red featuring a red seat to impose an aggressive image and Ross White with a silver seat to emanate a sense of coolness.
Key equipment
A headlight visor that enhances a tough and muscular look and a multi-reflector headlight (60/55 W) with superb visibility
A multifunctional digital meter that incorporates a fuel meter, a clock, and trip/odometer
Skid plates that prevent mud, flying gravel, and other elements from damaging the engine
A handle turning angle that extends to 45° on both left and right in a design made for maneuverability
Cargo hooks in the rear fender section to make loading convenient
Fuel tank with a capacity of 7.7 liters
Specifications
Model name CRF250L
Vehicle name/type Honda/JBK-MD38
Dimensions (L×W×H) (mm) 2,195×815×1,195
Wheelbase (mm) 1,445
Ground clearance (mm) 255
Seat height (mm) 875
Curb weight (kg) 143
Riding capacity (No. of occupants) 2
Minimum turning radius (m) 2.3
Engine type MD38E, Liquid-cooled 4-stroke DOHC 4-valve single cylinder
Total displacement (cm3) 249
Bore × Stroke (mm) 76.0×55.0
Compression ratio 10.7
Maximum output (kW[PS]/rpm) 17[23]/8,500
Maximum torque (N･m[kgf･m]/rpm) 22[2.2]/7,000
Fuel efficiency (km/L) 44.3
(constant speed of 60 km/h on a level road)
Fuel supply system Electronic
Starter type Self starter
Ignition type Full-transistor battery ignition
Lubricating type Wet sump
Fuel tank capacity (L) 7.7
Clutch type Wet multiplate with coil springs
Transmission type Constant mesh 6-speed return
Transmission gear ratios 1st 3.333
2nd 2.117
3rd 1.571
4th 1.304
5th 1.115
6th 0.962
Reduction gear ratio
(primary/secondary) 2.807/2.857
Caster angle (°) /Trail (mm) 27°35´/113
Tire size Front 3.00-21 51P
Rear 120/80-18M/C 62P
Brake type Front Hydraulic disc
Rear Hydraulic disc
Suspension type Front Telescopic (Inverted)
Rear Swing arm (Pro-Link suspension system)
Frame type Semi-double cradle
*
Manufacturer: Thai Honda Manufacturing Co., Ltd.
Manufacturing country: Thailand
Importer from Thailand: Honda Motor Co., Ltd.
If you search around the Honda sites the best info for what they will be selling here is on the Honda India site as below details show;
And guess what 'Made in LoS'
TOKYO, Japan, April 13, 2012 - Honda Motor Co., Ltd. has announced the start of sales in Japan on May 14, 2012, of a new 250-cc on/off-road model, the CRF250L, which offers an agile ride in a wide range of riding environments from urban to off road riding.
CRF250L (Extreme Red)
CRF250L (Ross White)
Under the slogan, “‘New On & Off Gear, your right buddy on the road’ to make ‘On’ (daily life) more convenient and ‘Off’ (weekends) more enjoyable,” the development team, by pursuing total balance and driving stability to the utmost, created a vehicle that enables a broad spectrum of users from beginners to experienced riders to enjoy the sheer fun of handling the machine.
The CRF250L is powered by a liquid-cooled 250-cc 4-stroke DOHC single-cylinder engine with powerful output in the low-to-mid rpm range. Low-friction technologies including an offset cylinder are also employed to realize the excellent fuel efficiency of 44.3 km/L (measured at a constant speed of 60 km/h on a level road).
A newly-designed frame makes use of the steel twin-tube structure to offer the rider a nimble ride while ensuring both agility and stability. In addition, an agile, high-performance run-through ability in a wide range of situations from urban riding to off road is realized through the adoption of an inverted suspension with a 250-mm cushion stroke for the front and the Pro-Link suspension with 240 mm of axle travel for the rear.
Styling has been refined to be sharper and more aggressive while inheriting the basic concept of Honda’s CRF motocrosser series, resulting in a design that asserts a Honda identity fitting for a new-era CRF. Customers are offered a choice of two color schemes: Extreme Red to present an aggressive image or Ross White for those who wish to impart a cool image.
Main Features of the CRF250L
Engine
The engine aims for powerful output that can be handled with equal ease on on-road and off-road. While achieving powerful torque from the low rpm range to high, the CRF250L’s engine also boasts output characteristics expressing the smooth rev-up that typifies a liquid-cooled 4-stroke DOHC engine. The Programmed Fuel Injection System (PGM-FI*), the O2 sensor, catalyzer fitted inside the muffler, and the newly applied low-friction technologies embedded in such components as the offset cylinder and the roller rocker arm all form a synergy that delivers high environmental performance along with excellent fuel efficiency of 44.3 km/L (measured at a constant speed of 60 km/h on a level road).
*
PGM-FI is a registered trademark of Honda.
Vehicle body/suspension
The newly-designed frame makes use of a steel twin-tube design to offer a nimble ride while ensuring both agility and stability, and the oval cross-sectional shape of the main pipe helps boost rigidity while enabling a slim vehicle body. The inverted front suspension employs a Separate Function Front Fork having an inner tube diameter of 43 mm and a cushion stroke of 250 mm in a design that secures both light weight and high rigidity to deliver excellent operability and high driving stability. The aluminum monoblock cast swing arm yields high strength and proper rigidity balance and is paired with a Pro-Link rear suspension having 240 mm of axle travel providing the rider with impressive agility and high road-holding capability from urban riding to off road.
Styling
Styling has been refined into a sharper and more aggressive tone while inheriting the concept of “centralized mass with triangular proportions,” a key feature and basic principle of Honda’s CRF motocrosser series. This design asserts a Honda identity befitting the CRF for a new era. A surface encompassing tank shrouds, side covers, and a rear fender has been made flush to project an even sharper image. Meanwhile, the muffler cover and tool box on the left side add accent to the design by forming a shape reminiscent of a side racing number plate. The body comes in one of two colors, Extreme Red featuring a red seat to impose an aggressive image and Ross White with a silver seat to emanate a sense of coolness.
Key equipment
A headlight visor that enhances a tough and muscular look and a multi-reflector headlight (60/55 W) with superb visibility
A multifunctional digital meter that incorporates a fuel meter, a clock, and trip/odometer
Skid plates that prevent mud, flying gravel, and other elements from damaging the engine
A handle turning angle that extends to 45° on both left and right in a design made for maneuverability
Cargo hooks in the rear fender section to make loading convenient
Fuel tank with a capacity of 7.7 liters
Specifications
Model name CRF250L
Vehicle name/type Honda/JBK-MD38
Dimensions (L×W×H) (mm) 2,195×815×1,195
Wheelbase (mm) 1,445
Ground clearance (mm) 255
Seat height (mm) 875
Curb weight (kg) 143
Riding capacity (No. of occupants) 2
Minimum turning radius (m) 2.3
Engine type MD38E, Liquid-cooled 4-stroke DOHC 4-valve single cylinder
Total displacement (cm3) 249
Bore × Stroke (mm) 76.0×55.0
Compression ratio 10.7
Maximum output (kW[PS]/rpm) 17[23]/8,500
Maximum torque (N･m[kgf･m]/rpm) 22[2.2]/7,000
Fuel efficiency (km/L) 44.3
(constant speed of 60 km/h on a level road)
Fuel supply system Electronic
Starter type Self starter
Ignition type Full-transistor battery ignition
Lubricating type Wet sump
Fuel tank capacity (L) 7.7
Clutch type Wet multiplate with coil springs
Transmission type Constant mesh 6-speed return
Transmission gear ratios 1st 3.333
2nd 2.117
3rd 1.571
4th 1.304
5th 1.115
6th 0.962
Reduction gear ratio
(primary/secondary) 2.807/2.857
Caster angle (°) /Trail (mm) 27°35´/113
Tire size Front 3.00-21 51P
Rear 120/80-18M/C 62P
Brake type Front Hydraulic disc
Rear Hydraulic disc
Suspension type Front Telescopic (Inverted)
Rear Swing arm (Pro-Link suspension system)
Frame type Semi-double cradle
*
Manufacturer: Thai Honda Manufacturing Co., Ltd.
Manufacturing country: Thailand
Importer from Thailand: Honda Motor Co., Ltd.
The official CRF web site is:http://world.honda.com/CRF250L/index.html
Although still no known price for here, maybe going to be a big suprise.
But I will stick with the 250klix thanks.
Although still no known price for here, maybe going to be a big suprise.
But I will stick with the 250klix thanks.
I just had an email from a mate and in part he said he went into Niyom panich in CM, they had a white one there and he paid a deposit on a red. The bike would be there in 2-3weeks.
Price was 134,900 Baht.
This is a Promotion Price which lasts for 15 Days He claimed after that time the Price will go up 5000 Baht to 139,900 Baht.
Price was 134,900 Baht.
This is a Promotion Price which lasts for 15 Days He claimed after that time the Price will go up 5000 Baht to 139,900 Baht.